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Indiana Jones: Worst movie ever.

#122
ADbassman said:
Come on people, it's fiction. It's a Hollywood movie. What the hell did you expect?
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Maybe my standards for movies are too high (they aren't at all), but I think the movie going public should expect something better than complete garbage. While the previous movies in the franchise did need some suspension of disbelief, the 'ridiculous' parts of the movies were actually believable in the context of the scene/situation. They fit into the world that was created.

Sure the things that happened in Star Wars are outlandish and definitely need suspension of disbelief, but they created rules for the universe and how things are supposed to work. Same with the first Indy films. Crystal Skull is taking more liberties with the rules of their world, and thats one of my gripes with it.

One of the things I enjoyed about Raiders and Last Crusade was that it made me actually want to be Indy. "****, I wish I could do that!". This one did not give me that feeling, and I felt quite a bit disconnected from all the characters in the movie.
 
#124
I haven't seen it yet but I don't really figure on being disappointed. Sure it sounds over the top and unrealistic... just like the first three Indy movies. :) And I figure it's gotta be better than Temple of Doom at any rate. ;)
 
#126
Unrepresented said:
My girflriend watched the entire series for the first time this week, culminating in the new film. She said this one was the same as the rest of the series, the only difference being that it didn't have nostalgia holding it back from being appreciated. She may be right, but I still feel a better product could've easily been produced.
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I think your girlfriend hit the nail right on the head. If this had been released twenty years ago and in it's stead Temple of Doom today...
:hmm:

I don't think some are capable of looking at this without the nostalgia filter. i just got a pretty cool eye-opener thanks to my DVR.

I saw that the original Mission: Impossible series was being rerun so I set my DVR to record several episodes. At the time this was a seriously high tech and very cool series.

The first episode I looked at involved a nerve gas threat. the team put a tracking device on a prisoner they helped escape. It was a large piece of jewelry on a jacket. But the fun part came in when they showed Barney, the cool tech guru in the MI van tracking the device: he had an almost impossibly large black and white map (for the size van he was driving) on the wall. On the map a light showed where the device was. When they did a close-up it was clear that the light on the map was someone shining a flashlight on it and moving it along.
:D

It also didn't help that when they cut back to the car the prisoner was in, the camera shot from the front of the vehicle's perspective was basically two people sitting in car seats with the driver holding a steering wheel with a gear shift attached. You could see below the knee with both people in the car. No dashboard.

I certainly didn't remember it being that cheesy... thanks to the nostalgia filter.
:cool:
 
#127
heroincredible said:
Maybe my standards for movies are too high (they aren't at all), but I think the movie going public should expect something better than complete garbage. While the previous movies in the franchise did need some suspension of disbelief, the 'ridiculous' parts of the movies were actually believable in the context of the scene/situation. They fit into the world that was created.
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Yes, a world where extremely ridiculous things happened on a regular basis. That was the appeal and now people are all growed up and complaining about ridiculous things happening. Funny how that works.

Indiana should've been dead a few times in the first movie alone... yet bullets missed him, falls never broke any bones, and no matter how many times he was slapped or punched, he was no worse for wear visually. And he never lost that damned hat.

He even maintained that perfect facial stubble over long periods of time.

And people didn't complain... until now:rolleyes:
;)
 
#132
There are still only 3 Indiana Jones movies made...I have been depressed since we came out of the cinema last night. And also very angry, with a distinct feeling that someone should rightfully be sniped. You felt violated by Phantom Menace??! Man, you ain't seen nothing yet, I'm not kidding. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is a better film, you understand?!

I cried in the middle of the movie, during the scene in the jungle - when you see it you'll know what I mean. And it only got worse and compounded the crappyness as it went on. I didn't enjoy a single scene, nor did I ever giggle once (did a lot of grandpa-smiling, though, which eventually turned into tortured grins). They lied to us with regards to the 'live action sequences' - it's a CGI mess, the lot of it. This is not Indiana Jones. George Lucas should 'disappear' and Steven Spielberg should retire.
 
#133
Brad Johnson said:
I think your girlfriend hit the nail right on the head. If this had been released twenty years ago and in it's stead Temple of Doom today...
:hmm:
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Yes it was hugely disappointing.

It may partly be the "nostalgia" filter but I don't think so.
I think it's just badly done.

I don't know anything about Shia Labeouf the guy that everyone is complaining about. This is the only thing I've seen him in. He wasn't "good" though. The whole thing seemed like a weak premise for handing over the mantle to him to continue the franchise but I may be wrong.

The story line wasn't fantastic and the action scenes were a bit far fetched but you do kind of expect that.
The other films were basically archaelogy/mythology crossed with the supernatural where as this seemed to be archaelogy crossed with extraterestrial. It felt a bit like ET had just walked onto the wrong sound stage.

What was really lacking, which I think held the other three together, was the characters and the humour. Almost no character development and very little of the humour we expect from IJ.
Considering who the characters were supposed to be and the history they shared there should have been alot more there.
We saw that in the last one between Harrison and Sean. There was massive scope for that here but they just didn't bother.
Harrison didn't even seem to be trying. He just put on the costume and went through the motions.

Really Sad.

Moksha.
 
#136
Had some time to calm down. Here are other points which really bothered me, just inexcusable flaws and weak spots:

The random ants and monkeys (again, why???). Critters always used to have a purpose, such as an obstacle or a trap or something. But here they just randomly drive into some pit in the jungle. "Look out for the giant killer ants!" Huh?!

The atom bomb? Why was it in there? So, Indy's gotten away from the Russians and all he has to do is find some help. But they can't just have him run into some army dudes or something that realistic, no they detonate a nuclear bomb in his face and have him fly a few km's in a lead-lined steel fridge...just to have him step out and dust his jacket a bit. And he STILL has to find help!

The car chase at the university where the KGB agents drive into the statue of Brody - head falls off, through the windshield of the car. Then what happens? Nothing - they just drive on. What seemed like what was going to be a homage to the Brody character (statue stops bad guys) just ended up being some silly "yeah, there's a statue of Brody because he's dead. And oh yeah, the stupid bad guys succeed in wrecking his statue"...what a waste of film.

The knife scenes, both at the back of the truck and in the tomb. Indy's not a graverobber or greedy about these things?! And if he did indeed cut his pants, then let's see em!

The sand pit scene, which first of all completely misrepresented Indy by having him explain in academic detail about the differences between a sand pit and quick sand...cringe...
But anyway, they get away from the russians...they get caught again right away. Why have it in there if it doesn't do anything to further the plot? Because they had to write a scene for that lame snake gag! Facepalm!

The waterfalls? Sure, that little boat always lands right side up (up side yer head!) and when it does keel over in the huge waterfall at the end, they just casually walk up on land, senile man still smiling, clutching the skull.

The way his sidekick changed sides all the time - who gives a rats the second time? Did they really have to make idiots of all the characters just so they could write in the scene where he drops those tracing devices? The sidekick is completely irrelevant to the story, not like he has any special skill or talent that helps them along.

The water "tunnel" at the end that soaks them completely, except Marion's hair of course!

:rollno::rollno::rollno::rollno::rollno::rollno:
 
#137
middlebit said:
There are still only 3 Indiana Jones movies made...I have been depressed since we came out of the cinema last night. And also very angry, with a distinct feeling that someone should rightfully be sniped. You felt violated by Phantom Menace??! Man, you ain't seen nothing yet, I'm not kidding. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen is a better film, you understand?!

I cried in the middle of the movie, during the scene in the jungle - when you see it you'll know what I mean. And it only got worse and compounded the crappyness as it went on. I didn't enjoy a single scene, nor did I ever giggle once (did a lot of grandpa-smiling, though, which eventually turned into tortured grins). They lied to us with regards to the 'live action sequences' - it's a CGI mess, the lot of it. This is not Indiana Jones. George Lucas should 'disappear' and Steven Spielberg should retire.
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Depressed? Angry?

Okay.
:D
 

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