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interesting combo from behringer

oversoul

oversoul

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What you all think? Anybody tried this? I must say that I was surprised by the sound of their aluminum cone cab line at a recent show I did were another fellow low ender was using it!

edit- forget that last question, its not available yet :ninja:
 
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oversoul said:
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What you all think? Anybody tried this? I must say that I was surprised by the sound of their aluminum cone cab line at a recent show I did were another fellow low ender was using it!

edit- forget that last question, its not available yet :ninja:
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This is interesting!!! I've got the BX3000T and an Avatar Neo 210 which sound really good together, but for a "portable" combo are pretty heavy to move around. I LOVE the idea of having 450w and the 210 together. I wonder if it's 450w into 8 ohms because I'm sure they've got two 16 ohm speakers in there to make an 8 ohm total load - otherwise it would be hard to add a cabinet onto this combo. Unless it's something like 300w into 4 ohms and 450w into 2 ohms... hmmm.....
 
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I want to know when these things will be available here in the States. I have a Behringer BX3000T which I like and an Avatar Neo 210, but if I could have 450w + the 210 in one very portable combo that would be great! I've looked on the Behringer website and they give limited information about this item. I want to know how heavy it is, and if it's 450w into 4 ohms or not.
 
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I'm sure I've seen them somewhere for $329 USD. I'm just thinking the portability of a combo over a head and a 210, but I'm pretty happy with my Avatar Neo 210. I'd have to play the Behringer unit and see if it's even close to worth selling my Behringer head and Avatar Neo 210 to get the combo.
 
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Ok, I apologize in advance if I'm bogarting this thread to serve my own needs -- I'm new to the forum idea and haven't quite figured out all the rules...
My question seems to be related to the topic at hand so hopefully I won't be run off like a coyote in the chicken coop.

I have a bit of an issue regarding the Behringer "ultrabass" bx4210a in that the craptastic aluminum dual tens have completely separated themselves from the non aluminum outer edge and flap about like a baby's rattle with anything louder than low volume or when using the "ultrabass" pot/setting or with the bass pot turned past noon. So instead of moan about these 2x10s that no longer can be considered working speakers, I'm trying to figure out what to replace them with.

Eminence 2 x10s rated at 200w/each (model ?) or less -- the ohm rating should match up fine.

OR... GK 115 OR TC 112, 2x10/12s or 115?

OR

Bugera has a couple of options: 2x10 1000w peak 500watt rms (I presume) and the slightly more (250$ vs 300$) 1 x 15 (bt115ts) both w/ turbosound "UK designed" speakers. Im thinking about pulling the 4210 amp section out and turning it into a standalone head, but are either of these bugera cabinets a good option to run from this bx4210a amp? I dig the wide variety of tones that the amp section produces, but really need a good set of speakers to make it all come alive.

Lastly, I'm a bit confused as I've recently come across conflicting information regarding the ratio of wattage between the amp & speakers. The best case scenario is: the amp should be capable of producing twice or 1/4 or 3/4 the wattage of the cab or is it the other way around or is that a rule regarding only tube amps or does it matter?? I see these manufactured combo amps where the speakers are rated to handle just below about half the watts as the amp they're connected to, but then read that it's better drive the speakers harder by using a more powerful amp. There seems to be two very convinced sides to this issue. Any thoughts on this or my earlier bugera cab/Behringer amp situmanation;-p?

Thanks , the Forum novice (for now),

Goobrador
 
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Well I guess you get the Zombie of the year award!!

You should have started a NEW thread stating your sctual problem!! Many of us dislike reading through a thread only to find it was started neigh on twenty years ago!! :(

What you are looking for is recommendations for a speaker change. That requires you to measure the internal dimensions and measure the ports if any. if you then post them here some of our more knowledgeable members can possibly help you out. Without doing this anything you just drop into the cabinet will result in a crapshoot.
 
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Ahhh...Zombies. Goooooohd.

Goobrador said:
Ok,...GK 115 OR TC 112, 2x10/12s or 115?
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Yes.

Goobrador said:
...I'm thinking about pulling the 4210 amp section out and turning it into a standalone head...
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No. Find some cheap 10's. Get the thing working, and sell it ASAP.

Goobrador said:
...confused...the amp should be capable of producing twice or 1/4 or 3/4 the wattage of the cab or is it the other way around or is that a rule regarding only tube amps...
Goobrador
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You can't really believe the manufacturer concerning wattage ratings for anything, especially speakers/cabs. Amps typically only need large amounts of power for very transient events. Speakers need to be able to handle those peaks and be able to stand up to sustained heavy use without over-heating or over-excursion.

Better quality gear tends to work like this: A big powerful amp (at least 500 watts into 4 ohms) driving one or two cabinets. If it is two, it is a couple of 112, 115, 210, 212, or 410 cabinets. Those cabinets typically are made by Ampeg, Aguilar, AudioKinesis, Bergantino, EAW, Eden, Epifani, Fender, Gallien Krueger, Greenboy Designs, Peavey, SWR, etc.

Each (typically 8 ohm) cabinet would probably be rated at least 350 watts by the builder. Actual fact is that some designs take three times that and smile.
 

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