Interesting rhythmic pattern - any other examples?

[skycruiser]

I came across an interesting rhythmic pattern that I used in my latest recording and was wondering if this type of pattern has been used prominently in any well know recordings or compositions. The pattern is a repeating pattern of 16th notes but every-other one is a tied pair, something like this. The "*" represent 16th notes, "^" is a tie and the "|" are quarter note down beats:

It almost sounds like a triplet pattern, sort of out-of-sync with the beat. The down beat rotates through which element of the beat it coincides with.

I used this in the bass part at around the 2:03 mark in this track, repeated on and off for about 30s:


After I developed and recorded this I realized I'd heard this pattern used way back in a Plastikman album as the driving bass line for the track "Marbles"



Just curious if anyone is aware of other uses of this type of rhythm. Maybe it is very common in some styles of music, I don't know.

 

[bholder]

I've heard it and used it myself before, though I can't think of any examples. Just sounds familiar.

 

[bholder]

I've heard more often repeating several times, then "closed off" with a grouping of straight eighth notes:
"da-daa da-daa da-daa da-aa da-da-da"

 

[skycruiser]

I've heard more often repeating several times, then "closed off" with a grouping of straight eighth notes:
"da-daa da-daa da-daa da-aa da-da-da"

I recognize that but can't think of where I have heard it. I my track above I do end the pattern with something like that, though I think I used 3 16th notes instead of 8th notes. The only other examples I have come across are techno/dance type stuff. Maybe it isn't a very common rhythmic pattern.

 

[bholder]

I recognize that but can't think of where I have heard it. I my track above I do end the pattern with something like that, though I think I used 3 16th notes instead of 8th notes. The only other examples I have come across are techno/dance type stuff. Maybe it isn't a very common rhythmic pattern.

I've heard it in classical and metal, just can't pin down where (I have "CRS" disease - can't remember hehe).

 

[dreamadream99]

I've heard more often repeating several times, then "closed off" with a grouping of straight eighth notes:
"da-daa da-daa da-daa da-aa da-da-da"

I remember this from the brass fanfare in the fast part of MacArthur Park.

 

[Les Fret]

Not sure what rhythm you mean exactly. The drum notation example is confusing. Can you notate in normal notes what you mean?

 

[skycruiser]

Not sure what rhythm you mean exactly. The drum notation example is confusing. Can you notate in normal notes what you mean?

Here are a couple of measures. The little arrows mark the down beats in 4/4 time. It is basically a 16th, 8th, 16th, 8th pattern, but you have to break up some 8ths across bar lines (or in the case below, to show where the down beat is).

 

[Les Fret]

Here are a couple of measures. The little arrows mark the down beats in 4/4 time. It is basically a 16th, 8th, 16th, 8th pattern, but you have to break up some 8ths across bar lines (or in the case below, to show where the down beat is).

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Ok thanks. I see. It's just a grouping of three 16th notes. Nothing special in itself. But you don't let it resolve into a one or two bar 4/4 phrase which basically makes it a 3/4. This creates a polymeter with underlying 4/4 beat.
For rhythms like this check most prog stuff. Or math metal. Good luck!

 

[Bob_Ross]

If it goes on long enough it's an implied polymeter of 3/16 against 4/4, but for briefer excerpts it's just a common syncopation. dreamadream99's citation of "MacArthur Park" is a good example of the latter.