Is a 600 watt Acoustic amp enough?

[MateoG78]

Hey TB, I’ve been looking at Acoustic combo amps for bit, tried a couple out and decided I want to get one. https://acousticamplification.com/b600c-bass-combo-amp/

My current amp is a pawnshop peavy vyper vip-1. It does the job at home but I’d don’t think it’s enough for a band.

I have a RockBass Corvette $$ that I’ll be playing it through.

We’re planning on doing a thrash/punk band. We have one bassist, guitarist, and drummer. We’re looking to add a singer and maybe another guitarist. Our current guitarist uses overdrive and distortion pedals.

Is the 600 watt Acoustic amp enough, just right, or overkill?

 

[bolophonic]

I played thrash and punk through a Hartke 3500 combo for 10 years without ever turning the volume even halfway up. It just depends on the rig and the band and everyone’s willingness to eq properly.

 

[jshinal]

I'd like to try that 2x10 combo. It has nice features. At 62 lbs it's going to be kind of a brick to get in and out of the car, but it surely is compact and laid out very well.

Band volume is usually centered around the drummer. If he's a caveman breaking rocks all night, the band is going to be very loud in any club stage. If everyone can play at a less than crazy volume, I'd expect this amp to do most club gigs very nicely, even for punk and thrash.

 

[Downlowsince81]

The Beast 600c is an excellent choice.! The actual wattage from the 210 setup is actually 425 stand-alone Watts. The wait is manageable, and I fit this class D combo in the back of my compact sedan.

With the extension cab, you will actually get your full output of 600 watts at 4 Ohms. I can attest that it will cut through a very loud drummer, and a distortion heavy guitarist with no issues at all! My prior amps were a 410 David Eden nemesis and an Ampeg SVT 3 Pro head with 810 SVT cab. The Eden 410 would have to be cranked to get anywhere near the output that this the B600C has at 10 o'clock on the control knobs. There are rumors that once Kustom stopped making the groove Bass amplification line, the factory began making the acoustic line under license for Guitar Center owned acoustic. The kickback function does very good, including if you're going thru DI from the amp into a PA. I couldn't be more than happy with the acoustic combo. Anything short of markbass and gallien Krueger 210 setup, didn't have the power & tonal shaping I was looking for in a combo. I have owned two Warwick's, and my last being the rockbass $$. The combo does a great job of handling the low B like a champ. Got to love that low end growl with good wattage. Try it out and see for yourself. Make sure you test it against the big box names and decide for yourself. You won't regret it.

 

[Downunderwonder]

The Beast 600c is an excellent choice.! The actual wattage from the 210 setup is actually 425 stand-alone Watts. The wait is manageable, and I fit this class D combo in the back of my compact sedan.View attachment 3415529 With the extension cab, you will actually get your full output of 600 watts at 4 Ohms. I can contest that it will cut through a very loud drummer, and a distortion heavy guitarist with no issues at all! My prior amps were a 410 David Eden nemesis and an Ampeg SVT 3 Pro head with 810 SVT cab. The Eden 410 would have to be cranked to get anywhere near the output that this app has at at 10 o'clock on the control knobs. There are rumors that once custom stopped making the groove Bass amplification line, the factory began making the acoustic line under license for Guitar Center owned acoustic. The kickback function does very good, including if you're going D I from the amp into a PA. I couldn't be more than happy with the acoustic combo. Anything short of markbass and gallien Krueger 210 setup, didn't have the power & tonal shaping I was looking for in a combo. I have owned to Warwick's, and my last being the rockbass $$. The combo does a great job of handling the low B like a champ. Got to love that low and growl with good wattage. Try it out and see for yourself. Make sure you test it against the big box names and decide for yourself. You won't regret it.

Not RMS watts.

 

[Downlowsince81]

Exactly. Details regarding Peak and RMS tend to be exploited by most bass amplification manufacturers as of late. The manual actually states that 600 watts can be attained by adding an additional 8 Ohm speaker cabinet. I have played combos with 200 rms watts that sounds just as loud as a 300 watt combo. You also have to factor the enclosure, frequency range, the amount of speaker surface area, and the environment you will be playing or rehearsing in with the bass. For whatever reason my Peavey 115 combo could make wattage you could feel & my vintage Gibson Thor combo bass amp with a third of the.wattage would give you bass you could hear better with a drummer beside you. I try to keep my eyes closed when I'm testing bass amplifiers, so I'm not sold by brand, wattage specifications, or even money. Everyone is seeking the sound they want to hear, and that is what's so unique about bass players. That is why different basses, different string types, & the difference in amplification is truly intriguing. I can tell you that the ACOUSTIC B600C is very loud, and has enough Headroom to where you're not having to drive the volume past 12 o'clock to get your point across and cut through most band settings. It also has great warmth. I wasn't a huge fan of Class D, but I encourage you to try multiple amps and find what's right for you. Continue for the idea of what a bass should sound like in your musical Journey. Live long and prosper my fellow bassist.

Not RMS watts.

 

[pcake]

what rig is your current guitarist playing through and is the drummer a hard hitter? if the guitar is using a 100 watt combo and likes to turn up, and if the drummer plays hard, in my opinion, no - the acoustic wouldn't be enough for punk. but it really depends on the music, the players and if you won't be going through FOH, the room.

when i was playing punk with a loud guitar and drums, i used a 2x10 PLUS an 18" cab with a 1000 watt carvin head. it was enough, but i wouldn't say it was too much.

 

[MateoG78]

what rig is your current guitarist playing through and is the drummer a hard hitter? if the guitar is using a 100 watt combo and likes to turn up, and if the drummer plays hard, in my opinion, no - the acoustic wouldn't be enough for punk. but it really depends on the music, the players and if you won't be going through FOH, the room.

when i was playing punk with a loud guitar and drums, i used a 2x10 PLUS an 18" cab with a 1000 watt carvin head. it was enough, but i wouldn't say it was too much.

Our guitarist has his own practice amp like me at home, but we have an amp at school we can use. I don’t know the wattage for it though. Our drummer plays a lot of jazz and black metal with his drums if that helps. We probably won’t do a lot of punk, maybe about 90% thrash and 10% punk.

 

[pcake]

we used to play a lot of death metal, and unless the drummer is pretty quiet, that 2x10 probably won't cut it. i've never met a quiet death or black metal drummer, but some could be quieter than ones i played with. and like i said, a 2x10 wasn't enough for punk bands i played with.

that being said, if you're playing with practice amps and school amps, my guess is you won't be playing that loud.

perhaps you can buy the amp, try it, and if if it works out, you're good. if it doesn't work out, return it. as long as it's in new condition, guitar center has a good return policy, and if you return it in a store, you won't have to pay return shipping.

 

[BogeyBass]

Wattage is more than enough.

It's more about the effeicency of the built in speakers.
I'd say usually in many situations 2x10 isn't enough to carry loud drums/guitars
Sometimes a 4x10 is enough but still riding on edge.

Power levels are no problem and it's typical seen these days that combos pack more power than the internal speakers can handle. Or the full power isn't seen unless a external cab is used.

Luckily even though the brand is somewhat bashed here.
In reality the acoustic combos are actually loaded with great features and outputs. And the preamp and notch filter is extremely useful for high gain distortion you might be using for metal/hardcore high distortion genres.