Well, the conversation was about Talkbass and the comments here. I don't let that poster's (or any other's) comments about what I play get to me for more than a moment or two. We would all do well to let such things roll off our back.
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Is a P bass necessary?
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Well, the conversation was about Talkbass and the comments here. I don't let that poster's (or any other's) comments about what I play get to me for more than a moment or two. We would all do well to let such things roll off our back.
Yes, I like your easygoing philosophy concerning all this. And I agree with you. But you, me, and everyone who reads this is human and thus subject to feelings. I am certain that not a single reader can always allow the "roll off our back" phenomenon to kick in when offended sufficiently--not always. Some things stick in people's backs like blades. Words can stab. And those who pen them are usually quite aware of that. :scowl:
john turner
You don't want to do that. Trust me.
i think the discussion of musical bigotry is a valid one, but not in this thread. we're discussing the objective and subjective rationale behind p-bass ownership here.
please feel free to start a thread in misc about this other topic (which again, i think would make for a good discussion, since it goes to the root of why we like what we like, and how we listen to new music). but again, this conversation does not belong here.
please feel free to start a thread in misc about this other topic (which again, i think would make for a good discussion, since it goes to the root of why we like what we like, and how we listen to new music). but again, this conversation does not belong here.
"Musical bigotry...!" Thank you--that's a perfect description of what more-than-irked me. All bigotry irks me and, while musical bigotry usually does not result in bodily harm to large numbers of people, still, it needs to be addressed by musicians because any kind of bigotry, wherever it roosts, destroys. That's by-definition counter-productive. As artists, we build!
Your point is well-taken. I will take this elsewhere.
Good in theory, but every man can only take so much and everyone has a breaking point.
I like P-basses. They sound good in practically every application in the hands of the right player. No bass will get that thick tone quite like the original.
Necessary? No.
Favored? Oh yeah.
Edit: Also, FWIW, I personally have yet to find a Jazz neck pick-up that sounds like a straight P pick-up. I love the J-neck, don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't have the presence of the P-humbucker IMO.
Yes. It is a humbucker.
Necessary? No.
Favored? Oh yeah.
Edit: Also, FWIW, I personally have yet to find a Jazz neck pick-up that sounds like a straight P pick-up. I love the J-neck, don't get me wrong, but it just doesn't have the presence of the P-humbucker IMO.
Yes. It is a humbucker.
Bass guitar isn't really necessary in a lot of music, so no, any one particular model isn't necessary. Much of what we have and do isn't. It's the unnecessary bits that we enjoy the most, even if only 2% of the audience can appreciate it.
Say it ain't so!
Sorry... I didn't say that it was unnecessary in good music though.
I have been guilty of liking some non-rock and roll music without any bass instruments, though more often there's something holding down the bottom end.
Even in rock, though, I can't be the only one who's been to concerts where I've thought..."Why not fire the bass player and have extra money for everybody else, since he's obviously not even plugged in?"
Sorry... I didn't say that it was unnecessary in good music though.
I have been guilty of liking some non-rock and roll music without any bass instruments, though more often there's something holding down the bottom end.
Even in rock, though, I can't be the only one who's been to concerts where I've thought..."Why not fire the bass player and have extra money for everybody else, since he's obviously not even plugged in?"
:scowl:
Go to better rock concerts.
Sorry... I didn't say that it was unnecessary in good music though.
I have been guilty of liking some non-rock and roll music without any bass instruments, though more often there's something holding down the bottom end.
Even in rock, though, I can't be the only one who's been to concerts where I've thought..."Why not fire the bass player and have extra money for everybody else, since he's obviously not even plugged in?"
What the heck kind of music you listen to fella 
You get closer to P-tone that way, but it's not P-tone. If P-bass tone is the tone you've got to have then you need a P-bass. But if close enough is good enough you can get by just fine without.
In my case, I love P-tone (and thus own several P-basses) but I love other tones too (and thus own others as well). I like variety in my music, but I like having a good P when that's the tone I want.
I used to love my P bass, til I got a jazz bass. The jazz neck is all me, and I find it a lot more versatile tonally. P basses make the P bass sound, but my jazz bass can go warm to bright and everywhere in between.
So, my answer is no, to the P bass and musical bigotry.
So, my answer is no, to the P bass and musical bigotry.
Nothing like a P-bass thread to get people going, eh?Why is that, anyway??
...because in general on TB, one can't praise a P-bass without bashing other basses. I don't think anyone gets offended when someone says, "I like P-basses." It's the "I like P-basses, that thar boutique crap sucks" comments that stir the pot.
tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow, a P bass creeps in it's petty pace to the last syllable of recorded time. and all our yesterdays have but lighted other basses the way to dusty death. out out brief candle. a P bass is but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and is heard no more. it is a tale told by an bass player, full of of sound and fury, signifying nothing
Indeed. P-basses aren't really my thing, but whatever makes people happy to play is what they should play. If for other people, that's a P-bass, that's cool.
It's the "P-bass superior, [insert basically any other kind of bass here] inferior" attitude that I find irritating. Same with the assumption some players seem to have that if one does not own a P-bass or enjoy playing them, that one has some personal vendetta against Fender.
Then of course, the attitude on the other side taken by some players in reaction to this, that all P-bass players are conformists or yes men or some other silly idea is equally ridiculous. Most serious bass players, I would guess, play whichever brand and model of instrument (plural in many cases) that they do because they simply like those instruments.
