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Is this a sutable PA along with some PA questions

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thekorean

Feb 20, 2009
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Don't know if this would be overkill or too little. I think I may just get the speakers and subwoofers and then use the leftover money for a powered mixer. Or should I just keep the mixer and power amp? Are powered speakers really worth it and what is the difference between powered speakers and powered mixers?
 
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Good question, Riis: What will it be used for? $500 seems like a reasonable price if the gear's in good shape. The Shure 57 & 58 mics with cables and stands (assuming decent shape) for $50 seems like a good price, too. Be aware that this probably won't be the last money you spend on PA gear. It would probably be enough to get you going - good for a rehearsal PA and perhaps some smaller gigs.

KO
 
#4
Powered speakers have a built-in amplifier in each one. Each speaker needs a 120v source plus a signal from the board or daisy-chained from another one. This also means you can send each one a different mix if you want to, which is especially good if used for for monitors. (If your board has 4-aux. sends and a L/R send then you could get stereo front-end and 4-monitor mixes).

A powered mixer combines the mixer and the amplifier(s) in one cabinet; but if you tried to do the same thing with a powered mixer, the powered mixer would have to have 6 built-in amplifiers. Most have one or two so you can run mono mains +(1)monitor mix. But all you have to do is run speaker wires to the speakers, no AC.

Powered speakers seem to be the more modern way to go. Little mixers with built-in effects aren't very expensive anymore and you can use as many powered speakers as deemed necessary for the gig.
 
#6
In regards to zooberwerx, Budget is extremely tight at around 500 max. Will just be used for practices and very small gigs (family functions).

what makes the nadys bad and possibly instead of the mixer I would get the mic stuff and get a peavey mixer.

going to start looking at a mixer with one powered monitor with basic accessories.




EDIT:
http://pro-audio.musiciansfriend.com/product?sku=480818V
found this. Would have the money left over for mics also.
 
#8
Hi.

Even though I'm a big fan of Yamaha stuff and active cabs, I'd still choose the CL "package" if I had to make a desicion between those two options.

For the function You described, ie. vocals only, both get the job done. With additional mics obviously ;). We gig all the time for PA's much like those two options. The drummer has his own BD "PA" though.

The CL deal is however more versatile and somewhat scalable. The mics, cables and stands for $50 apiece is a good deal also.

Regards
Sam
 
#9
Yeah if we end up doing a gig without a PA available, my drummer's father has a large enough PA most likely to fit the bill. Mics won't be an issue because we already have some. The only thing I am worried about is that if we are micing up the drum set because that takes up quite a few inputs if I remember.
 
#10
Hi.

thekorean said:
Yeah if we end up doing a gig without a PA available, my drummer's father has a large enough PA most likely to fit the bill.
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You definitely lost me there.

You're buying a PA system, while having an acess to one?

Makes little or no sense to me if the money is tight as You say.

thekorean said:
The only thing I am worried about is that if we are micing up the drum set because that takes up quite a few inputs if I remember.
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This makes even less sense, drums generally aren't mic'ed for rehearsals if You aren't doing a PA rehearsal for a tour.
Our drummer wants (doesn't need ;)) to have his BD mic'ed at all times, but it's his own equipment he's using, so what the heck.

Neither of those setups You listed are particulary well suited for SR for the entire band, but decent for vocals and DJ type gigs.

Regards
Sam
 
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thekorean said:
The issue is the PA is at his father's practice space (probably better than at his house or mine). He won't bring it back unless it is for something important ie festival or fairly large gig.

I thought you miced drums to record?

hope this clarifies a bit
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You do mic drums to record. This is the first time you mentioned wanting to record. :confused: If you are wanting to record then get a Portable digital recorder.
 
#13
Hi.

thekorean said:
The issue is the PA is at his father's practice space (probably better than at his house or mine). He won't bring it back unless it is for something important ie festival or fairly large gig.

I thought you miced drums to record?

hope this clarifies a bit
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Yep, clarifies on one field, confuses even more on another (recording).

A practice PA, or more accurately, a vocal SR, is as easy as one powered monitor or a decent size guitar/bass/keys combo. Cheap as soap and gets the job done.

Don't be fooled into thinking that any of the mixing consoles You listed are good enough for recording purposes where the quality/bleed resistance demand is so high that the drums need to be individually mic'ed.

If You're recording, modulusman nailed it, get a dedicated gear for that purpose. Digital is preferable these days for many different reasons ;).

Sure, the "old way" works well, even better than the digital portastudios, but in that case You're looking at couple of thousand at least into the individual components.

Regards
Sam
 

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