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it's so much easier with sweetwater...

Sep 20, 2011
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we buy gear from several big box stores regularly - GC, MF, sam ash, AMS and sweetwater, but today when our new focusrite scarlett 2i2 arrived without a hiccup or any slow shipping, it was such a joy. i ordered it saturday, it just arrived at our front door.

of my last two orders from MF, one someone forgot to ship; eight days after they said it had shipped, i called and it hadn't. it did get here, though. the current order they sent via UPS mail innovations - that's where UPS picks it up, takes it to your area and transfers it to the post office. my box sat in kansas city at a UPS facility for about a week, and only just transferred to our local post office, and since USPS often has dismal tracking, who knows when it'll arrive? true, MF did sent our box, but they choose to use UPS mail innovations, which sucked even when it had another name.

and then there's often an over-45 minute wait to get customer service at MF, and i've discovered that often what they tell you is wrong - because each rep you ask the same question will give you a different answer. and then there was the recurring payment issue where their system wouldn't take my payment - no one could fix it. i finally did by removing any old payment methods.

don't get me wrong - if you're not in a rush, MF/GC often has stuff in stock that no one else has, you can get discounts you can't get from sweetwater and that are more reliable than the sam ash discounts, and MF/GC carries brands sweetwater doesn't have. and then there's the MF 8% rewards program.

but while they don't offer discounts, i can always get quick help without a wait from sweetwater by phone or email, if you ask 3 people the same question, you'll get the same answer from all of them and we've never had an issue of any sort with shipping (they use fedex, which has been very good for us), payment, tracking, changing account info or anything else (ignoring our first ever order there when our rep quit, leaving everything a mess - but that was years ago and never repeated). our rep does things like have the warehouse weigh several sealed boxes of the same cheap bass and send the lightest.

i know some people have had issues, but i have issues from the other stores fairly frequently - some rather amusing, but for years, sweetwater's been flawless. part of that is our rep, ben, but part seems to be sweetwater.
 
Sweetwater is to much like Amazon. They dont do it right the first time, yet make up for it with outstanding customer service. It makes it easy to go back cause you know they fix any issues. It would just be nice if they did it right the first time.

I like to locate what I need on Reverb and then work with the smaller shops directly. I find that buying from the smaller places provides better service and they do it right the first time. Plus its better to not have 1 giant serving all like Amazon.

+1 to Alto Music in New York, Wildwood in Colorado, Daves in Wisconsin, and Music City in Detroit. There are some really great places who provide tax free and free shipping.
 
Sweetwater is to much like Amazon. They dont do it right the first time, yet make up for it with outstanding customer service. It makes it easy to go back cause you know they fix any issues. It would just be nice if they did it right the first time.

I like to locate what I need on Reverb and then work with the smaller shops directly. I find that buying from the smaller places provides better service and they do it right the first time. Plus its better to not have 1 giant serving all like Amazon.

+1 to Alto Music in New York, Wildwood in Colorado, Daves in Wisconsin, and Music City in Detroit. There are some really great places who provide tax free and free shipping.

of my last 15 sweetwater orders, all arrived very quickly in perfect condition - i wish i could say that about amazon, but we've had some issues, and while they took care of us every time, there have been no issues for me in the last two years or more from sweetwater. when i needed to send a return to sweetwater due to ergonomics, they were very good about that, too.

i've often had poor luck with our local stores except for l.a. guitar sales (indie store, awesome selection, nice people) and decent luck with mccabes, but neither store has a lot of basses or bass gear.
 
I asked them about a case for my gk 500 and they tried selling me something completely different. It was the first time I tried buying something from them. Heard so many good things on here but not so sweet for me.
 
MF used to offer 15-20% off, plus the 8% back in points span which was hard to beat. Now, they don't offer anything off, I've had lot's of problems with them not having things in stock and now they have sales people calling and bugging me. They've clearly changed management/strategy. They also push financing really hard a la sweetwater. I used a gift card there, and I'm done.
 
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MF used to be my go to but they’ve really cut back on their incentives over the past couple of years. I still enjoy the in-store experience of GC when they have knowledgeable staff who can shoot the breeze, but they are few and far between.

SW has been my go-to for awhile now. Yes, I’m almost always paying full price, but their CS is unparalleled and enjoyable to work with when issues do arise. Plus I like knowing exactly what my instrument will look like and what it will weigh. It matters to me.
 
BTW... recently bought a "Used" (really it was old stock 2019) brand new Ric 4003 from a GC in Florida. Went through the phone and email to buy it. Full payment with my CC.

It took two weeks before they finally shipped. It arrived alright. But was like pulling teeth to get them to ship it.

Here is a pic of the "used" 4003 (and it had the warranty card and etc.)
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I've spent many thousands of dollars at Musician's Friend. I had one instance where they shipped the wrong thing (a Zildjian Z cymbal), replaced it with the right thing (a Zidjian K cymbal with a 2x cost), gave me a credit, and didn't have me send the wrong item back. Also, at Musician's Friend, I don't have to put up with an assigned sales droid to complete my orders or call me to advertise stuff or pressure me to pull the trigger on an order. I've never bought from Sweetwater and never will.
 
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They also push financing really hard a la sweetwater.

Been dealing with Sweetwater for years and I’ve never once had them “push” anything. Once they did mention financing was available if I were interested since it was a really big ticket item I was calling about. But other then mention it was available in passing, that’s all they said about it. I don’t know if that’s what you mean by “pushing.” But if so I’d call that a mischaracterization. If not, how about sharing some specifics, along with the name of the rep you talk to? You’ve piqued my interest since I’ve had nothing but good things to say about Sweetwater here at TB. So if your experience signals a shift in how they do business, that’s something I’d want to know about.
 
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Been dealing with Sweetwater for years and I’ve never once had them “push” anything. Once they did mention financing was available if I were interested since it was a really big ticket item I was calling about. But other then mention it was available in passing, that’s all they said about it. I don’t know if that’s what you mean by “pushing.” But if so I’d call that a mischaracterization. If not, how about sharing some specifics, along with the name of the rep you talk to? You’ve piqued my interest since I’ve had nothing but good things to say about Sweetwater here at TB. So if your experience signals a shift in how they do business, that’s something I’d want to know about.

I’ve literally had jam sessions (more than one) interrupted when my guitard received sales droid calls from Sweetwater.
 
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