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Jazz Shielding Pictorial (Big Images Warning)

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by Lyle Caldwell, Jan 5, 2005.


  1. Ty_Boogie

    Ty_Boogie Bass, A way of life

    Sep 6, 2004
    Troy, NY
    Ditto
     
  2. Joybass

    Joybass

    Jun 22, 2015
    Leidschendam, NL
    Thank you Lyle and other knowledgeable contributors to this thread! I just finished upgrading a jazz bass that hummed and buzzed like crazy. Complete coppertape shielding (soldered and all measured through), new pots, jack output and wiring. I applied star grounding, and now it is silent as a mouse. Fun job it was. Highly recommendable.
    I must say I spent a good half hour measuring and tweaking because the pickups where dead silent too, initially, but then I discovered that one leg of the tone cap was touching the hot lug of the output jack. Phew.
     
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  3. PawleeP

    PawleeP

    Oct 8, 2012
    do the the model j dimarzios (w/adj poles) and/or the stock MIM jazz basses need this kind of shielding? i always used aluminum foil.. i like the idea this post describes
     
  4. CrashClint

    CrashClint I Play Bass therefore I Am

    Nov 15, 2005
    Wake Forest, NC
    DR Strings Dealer (local only)
    I wish I would have seen this before I bought Copper Tape. I ended up getting Copper Slug Tape from Home Depot.

     
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  5. My replica j-bass is dead quiet, but I sure like the idea of changing the pots so there's no volume/volume but a blend/master volume setting. Not sure how to do that though... Is soldering the way it is in the OP all there is to do??
     
  6. I always considered my two volume knobs my blending devices.
    fnord!
     
  7. They are, ofcourse. However, if I turn one of the pots down, I get a little hum. So changing pots was something on my list, but the setup in the OP sounds great: only one pot to turn volume down while blending with the other. I'd like that.
     
  8. DiabolusInMusic

    DiabolusInMusic Functionless Art is Merely Tolerated Vandalism Supporting Member

    The wiring schematic in the OP will get you a V/B/T. You can also google a schematic, just look for "jazz bass wiring blend control" or something similar. You would only need to change one pot, not all three.

    The hum you get when you favour one pickup is 60hz hum. That is due to your bass using single coil pickups. The only way to stop that hum would be through a pickup swap or modifying your electronics with an Audere pre-amp or dummy coil.
     
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  9. Pulex

    Pulex

    Apr 13, 2009
    In the OP, the pickup and bridge ground wires are attached to the ground lug while the pots use a common ground on the output jack. Is there a specific reason for this? Why not just use one common ground? I'm planning to shield my Jazz Bass and need some insights :)
     
  10. BlueTalon

    BlueTalon Happy Cynic

    Mar 20, 2011
    Spokane, Washington
    Endorsing Artist: Turnstyle Switch
    What I do, and what I recommend, is solder the bridge ground wire right to the shielding. I ground everything in the signal chain at the jack. There's no advantage electronically doing it that way, it's just less messy, with fewer wires.
     
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  11. Pbassmanca

    Pbassmanca In the pocket n' thumpy. So woody, so greasy... Supporting Member

    This is fantsstic as I am planning on doing this to my 2004 HWY-1 Jazz bass once I choose a new set of SC pickups to replace the ridiculously bright stock pickups in the bass. A great road map to cavity shielding success. :thumbsup:
     
  12. Pulex

    Pulex

    Apr 13, 2009
    Alright, thanks! So basically, in a bass or guitar the star grounding technique doesn't have major advantages compared to standard grounding except for the tidy look, right?
    I think I'll go with your suggestion and wire the brige ground to the shielding and everything else (pickups and pots) to the output jack.
     
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  13. BlueTalon

    BlueTalon Happy Cynic

    Mar 20, 2011
    Spokane, Washington
    Endorsing Artist: Turnstyle Switch
    It's my opinion that a star ground is actually less tidy because it requires additional wire(s) to go to the hub.

    As anyone who has had grounding issues at a gig knows, good grounds are important. But there's just not enough circuitry inside a passive bass for it to matter. If you shield the entire inside of your control cavities and it's all connected to each other and to the jack, then your shielding IS the hub of a star ground.
     
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  14. Ordered and received Entwistle JBXN (neodymium) pups. So, I opened my JB (replica) and found out that there was only ONE (red) wire coming from the neck pickup. The bridge pickup has two wires, both soldered to the pots, but again: the neck only one..? Is this common for certain type of pups? And I guess the best thing to do is remove everything and solder it the way it should be?
     
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  15. I'm thinking of doing this type of shielding on my Fender Aerodyne MIJ jazz bass, with p/j pickups (vvt). On this bass, the control cavity is on the backside, the cover is made of plastic (not shielded). Anything special I have to consider?
     
    Last edited: Mar 22, 2018
  16. Timpanogos Slim

    Timpanogos Slim

    May 26, 2017
    Line the inside of the control route completely with the foil extending over the screw holes where the cover attaches. Line the inner side of the cover with foil as well.
     
  17. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Finally a P/J with no hiss or hum or noise.
    29405186_10155961176972254_1744034848_o.
     
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  18. Rodslinger

    Rodslinger Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2013
    RVA & then some
    If the preamp touches the preamp il
    I use the small batch $15 version of this. Best shielding paint ever. I also use a pipe cleaner with the shielding paint to coat the channels from cavity to cavity. I will never go back to copper shield
     

  19. Have people found that nickel/copper paint vs tape works better? Definitely seems more simple to execute.
     
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  20. was the $15 version 12ml? Was that really enough to do both pickup cavities and the control cavity?!
     
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