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JPJ vs Geddy Lee

#41
mellowinman said:
I'm not seeing how Geddy can play circles around JPJ. I would put their technical skill pretty close, and maybe even give a small edge to JPJ for his overall fretboard knowledge. That guy can run from lowest note to highest on any bass, and always stay incredibly musical while doing so. He is definitely among the greatest to ever play the instrument.
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Oh yea, well Geddy's bass can beat up JPJ's bass!
 
#47
JLY said:
When I play at home I want to sound/ play like Geddy but when I play with a band I want to sound/ play like JPJ
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I totally get this. JPJ has always been the standard for me, and since I have been in a heavy blues trio for about six years, his vibe totally fits (with a bit of Tommy Shannon and Jack Bruce mixed in). But, since I have my handy 85 Rick as well, I often toss on some Rush and attack my bass ala Geddy. I can cop his tone fairly well, but that's about it, still good fun.

JLY said:
Each would likely be able play/copy anything that the other did at least technically, but that doesn't mean that Geddy would sound like JPJ ( or vise versa) in doing it.
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Exactly.
 
#54
Turock said:
90% of the time? Get real. Page is actually doubling JPJ's riffs in many of those "riff" songs. Also, plenty (maybe even most) of Zep is not even riff based.
No, I'm quite certain it's you who needs to listen.
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Turock, you're cute, but I don't think you know anything about Zep.
A) Page wrote the vast majority of the material
B) Zep is probably the greatest riff band of all time, they have riffs up the wazoo.
 
#55
mellowinman said:
I'm not seeing how Geddy can play circles around JPJ. I would put their technical skill pretty close, and maybe even give a small edge to JPJ for his overall fretboard knowledge. That guy can run from lowest note to highest on any bass, and always stay incredibly musical while doing so. He is definitely among the greatest to ever play the instrument.
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Anyone who assumes Geddy Lee is master of proper technique is...um....go reread Wikipedia again. Geddy is NOT known for proper technique or technical skill. I believe he even said somewhere (citation needed) that he just plays notes that sound good and right for the song he's playing or the jam he's doing. And that's the reason why he has no instructional DVDs like most players do because his techniques, in general, is "wrong".

Would YOU Want to start out playing bass by playing with only one finger?
 
#56
MovingPitchers said:
Would YOU Want to start out playing bass by playing with only one finger?
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Not disagreeing about the technique, but for the record Geddy didn't start as a single finger player - that's where he's ended up. In reality he uses three distinct finger styles: single finger plucking, two finger playing, and strumming in a flamenco-ish manner.

The single finger playing provides a very different rhythmic feel as compared to two finger playing. The technique serves the material.

Counterintuitively, single finger doesn't slow one down. Its not so rigid that you can't double finger for quick passages and fills. It's an interesting tool to add to the bag.
 
#57
DigitalMan said:
Not disagreeing about the technique, but for the record Geddy didn't start as a single finger player - that's where he's ended up. In reality he uses three distinct finger styles: single finger plucking, two finger playing, and strumming in a flamenco-ish manner.

The single finger playing provides a very different rhythmic feel as compared to two finger playing. The technique serves the material.

Counterintuitively, single finger doesn't slow one down. Its not so rigid that you can't double finger for quick passages and fills. It's an interesting tool to add to the bag.
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I know, but for beginner bass players, it's probably not the best technique to show them. Except the two finger playing, but Geddy doesn't employ that as much as the flamenco or single finger plucking. I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
 
#58
MovingPitchers said:
I know, but for beginner bass players, it's probably not the best technique to show them. Except the two finger playing, but Geddy doesn't employ that as much as the flamenco or single finger plucking. I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
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For sure. Geddy does not exhibit the fundamentals that every bass player should start out with. Where he is most instructive is helping understand that you can rewrite the rules.
 
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