Kahler tremolo bass from Aliexpress

[Matteo Marziali]

NEW KAHLER 4410 TREMOLO BASS BRIDGE 4 STRING CHROME AND BLACK Roller Saddle With Worm involved string device -in Guitar Parts & Accessories from Sports & Entertainment on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group

Hello, I found this bridge on sale on aliexpress. Did anyone try it? It's a fake?

 

[Gorn]

It's a real bridge. It's a fake Kahler.

 

[Matt Liebenau]

I'm sure you'll get something that looks like the picture. How well it works may be more of a crapshoot.

 

[Gorn]

You gotta watch out for those worm involved string devices.

 

[Gilmourisgod]

The fake Kahler logo does not inspire confidence in the integrity of the builder. Looks a little crude even in the photo. The usual Aliexpress Crapshoot. Might be OK, but you won't know until it shows up.

 

[Roland GR 88]

Avoid at all costs. Seriously.
In order for a trem to work properly it must be very well machined. Even licensed versions from the big makers can be poor imitations of the real thing. This piece will have cast parts where it should have machined parts and the quality of the metal is likely very very low. I would have big doubts that it would last more than a few weeks if it even works out of the box and I would expect that string tension alone will ruin it very quickly.

 

[Gilmourisgod]

No offense to the OP, but I don’t know why anybody thinks they are going to get high quality products in counterfeit form. The best you can say about most of the Chinese knockoffs, is they look good, and might be marginally useable. Any factory willing to sell a counterfeit is not going to be concerned about QC. I have seen real Rickenbacker and other American brand knockoffs for sale on Aliexpress using pirated genuine photos plucked off the internet, and Aliexpress does not police them in any way. That may be an actual photo of a Kahler, looking at it on a large screen, I see what looks like wear through the black anodize down to the brass on the saddles, maybe a photo of a used genuine bridge? Buyer Beware doesn’t really cover it.

 

[mech]

Just my opinion, it's a problem with no solution looking for a place to be.

 

[sissy kathy]

Here's a picture of the real thing. notice how the saddles take up much more room. The writing by the name is different. The string retainer is substantially different. Most importanly look at the saddle height difference. I think the one you found has guitar saddles on it.

 

[Watchootognbout]

Instead of a tremolo bridge,why not investigate this?
It does a whole lot more than a Kahler can do!

 

[96tbird]

Do not.

 

[Rexylab]

It has been forever since I have been on here. I work for kahler now and i can tell you the ali express knockoffs are pure poopie.

 

[sissy kathy]

It has been forever since I have been on here. I work for kahler now and i can tell you the ali express knockoffs are pure poopie.

Tell us the knockoff faults from your prejudiced position, and what makes the Kahler superior.

 

[96tbird]

Can you imagine working for a guitar hardware co in the design department? Like when have things ever changed on them? “Hey, let’s color them black” seems to be the only advance their on designs

 

[Rexylab]

Tell us the knockoff faults from your prejudiced position, and what makes the Kahler superior.

Sure can! Try getting replacement parts when they break (and they will break because the material they use isn’t what we use). Our parts are sae and not metric so you are out of luck if you ever need a part.

We have lots of counterfeit Kahlers here and they are all a poorly made cash grab.

I won’t even get into steeling is wrong. If you are ok with buying stolen tech there is no getting you to see that isn’t cool.

That being said Kahler offers a 20% discount on a real Kahler bridge if you surrender your counterfeit.

 

[Rexylab]

Can you imagine working for a guitar hardware co in the design department? Like when have things ever changed on them? “Hey, let’s color them black” seems to be the only advance their on designs

Are you talking about the Kahler bass trem?

 

[ctmullins]

I just don’t understand the allure of buying cheap stuff from countries with little respect for intellectual property rights.

If you buy cheap stuff, guess what? You get cheap stuff.

Just don’t go there. Pony up for the real thing, and enjoy it for many years to come.

 

[Gilmourisgod]

What he said^^^^^^
A lesson I have to keep learning, somehow. I have bought a few things at Harbor Freight I knew were crap, planning on using them once or twice, and that’s about how long they lasted, but a tremolo is a pretty high-stress part, and the Chinese tend to use crappy materials for off-brand knockoffs. The “Lords of Music” headless bass hardware for instance, is just complete dreck.

 

[Rexylab]

It's a real bridge. It's a fake Kahler.

Nailed it!

 

[MattZilla]

Aliexpress is all counterfeit garbage. All of it. You never need to ask. Each thing is just a (thing you want)-Shaped-Object, a barely functional decoration at best.