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Let’s chat about melodic minor

Apr 7, 2010
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This may be a biased statement, but I would assert that the most common usage of melodic minor is to cherry pick modes and/or chords that afford enhanced usefulness to the ‘standard’ mode/chord they’re ‘replacing.’ This can apply to functional harmony as well as modal, though the latter can easily be looked at as simply using melodic minor itself.. 32 bars of X7#11 isn’t exactly grounded to the Ionian, but I will touch on this again shortly.

note: at some point in the middle of runners, I made the decision to refer to the more common skill set as “Ionian,” so as to increase clarity and not have to re-explain what I’m talking about.

Now.. first, regarding functional harmony- When I say “enhanced usefulness,” I am most commonly mean simply adding consonance.. One of the ways I teach younger players about thingsOne of the ways I teach younger players about things like using the Lydian as the major, is basically that you want more notes you can play long. Holding out a high F# has a more typically convincing intuitive sonic function than a high F. In that spirit, using the Locrian^9 you find in melodic minor as the ii in a minor ii-V-i affords you more consonance, more useful long notes, compared to the typical locrian approach you would use diatonacally.. this type of substitution, borrowing from melodic minor modes, is again some of the most common, if not ubiquitous usage of the entire mode set. In this usage paradigm, it simply seeks to either add some color and convincing interest to the tonality moment by moment, or it does that while also adding to the tension and release
And of the functional harmony it’s being substituted into, by adding additional Halfstep resolutions.

The second usage I mentioned is a more modal context, In which the emphasis is on “vertical harmony,” which for most of us is simply saying that the emphasis is on the tonality of the cords into themselves, with less emphasis on chords leading into each other functionally. This is another fantastic common usage, which requires less explanation. Vamping on a X7#11 or oscillating up and down between A+^ and B+^ (augmented major 7/ Lydian augmented ) is fantastic and spacey.


But what I’m here to discuss, what I’ve been playing with lately, what is somehow a “newish” point of interest, despite having been something of an elephant in the room, is diatonic functionally harmonic usage of the melodic minor scale. I have less to say about this, as what I really want is to spark some discussion- who has some progressions they’re fond of, who has some stories of jamming and arriving in a place that ended up basically being diatonic functional harmony based on the melodic minor modes instead of the Ionian modes?

an interesting example to me, as I run out of time, was simply setting up a looper to practice arpeggios. I simply went chord by chord, 2 bars each with rhythm bass and chords 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 up the chord scale. What I noticed, is that it has this eerie endless kind of feel- it never feels like you really arrive anywhere, unlike the Ionian version of this progression. It would take some intentional thought and concentration for me to establish where I am in terms of distance from “1.” I’ve been spending some time thinking about to what degree this is an inherent feature of this Mozart, versus it simply being an artifact of my relative unfamiliarity- it’s familiar enough, don’t get me wrong, but I think we can all agree that Ionian modes are always for 99.999% of us going to seem much more familiar.

anyway rant over for now, I’d love to hear from some of you who have pent up thoughts, anecdotes, angry letters, etc.
 
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I take a bit simpler approach, that I don't think of "melodic minor" as a distinct scale. To me it's all just "minor."

For example in my brain, "C Minor" means C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, A, Bb, B, C.

A tune like "My Funny Valentine" would be an example how I arrived at this way of thinking.
 
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Well, I'm not sure that the idea of "adding consonance" with Melodic Minor is valid for me but rather to add dissonance and color. The only reason I use Melodic Minor is to add alterations to Dominant 7th chords, which are the ones that lends itself to the juicy sounds with all their inherent tension.

There are basically 4 ways of doing this depending on the sound you're going for. There's no need to really learn all the MM modes, because typically, the changes are happening so fast that you just need to get your idea out and move on. So for me I just tend to work in cells of sound that I make myself familiar with and use that. Just like you learn words and use them. The point is to be articulate in your delivery. As time progresses you learn more and more things to say.

Regarding playing over Dominant#11 chords, you can just play the MM pitch collection that's up a 5th from the dominant chord and it gives you a #11. That's one of the 4 ways of using MM.
 
I take a bit simpler approach, that I don't think of "melodic minor" as a distinct scale. To me it's all just "minor."

For example in my brain, "C Minor" means C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, A, Bb, B, C.

A tune like "My Funny Valentine" would be an example how I arrived at this way of thinking.

Well, I'm not sure that the idea of "adding consonance" with Melodic Minor is valid for me but rather to add dissonance and color. The only reason I use Melodic Minor is to add alterations to Dominant 7th chords, which are the ones that lends itself to the juicy sounds with all their inherent tension.

There are basically 4 ways of doing this depending on the sound you're going for. There's no need to really learn all the MM modes, because typically, the changes are happening so fast that you just need to get your idea out and move on. So for me I just tend to work in cells of sound that I make myself familiar with and use that. Just like you learn words and use them. The point is to be articulate in your delivery. As time progresses you learn more and more things to say.

Regarding playing over Dominant#11 chords, you can just play the MM pitch collection that's up a 5th from the dominant chord and it gives you a #11. That's one of the 4 ways of using MM.
Sure, and I guess the ‘consonance’ idea kind of takes for granted that I’ve already dealt with the dirtier and more exotically dissonant usages is melodic minor language as substitutions in Ionian functionality.. but certainly I shouldn’t just leave it out! I guess really the main point I’m getting at is that I find it interesting and shockingly underused, rather than subbing these modalities in to replace and enhance directional harmonies or colorful alternatives, to simply ride out the larger melodic minor modality and find its own introspective functionality, sonically and linguistically (mathematically, if you prefer


Are we talking about traditional Melodic Minor, or "jazz" Melodic Minor?


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certainly ‘jazz,’ as creating modes off of the , erm, melodic usage of the melodic minor in terms of freshman theory isn’t terribly useful. I find it’s more of a useful example of momentum in melody, but I always thought it’s a bizarre thing that we teach it like it’s some formal scale, as if it’s the key to some puzzle we’ll need to solve at a later date
 
For example in my brain, "C Minor" means C, D, Eb, F, G, Ab, A, Bb, B, C.
I think only in terms of chord tones and "other notes", when it comes
To bass lines. Stopped bothering with "thinking in scales" in favor of experimenting and using my ear to build my vocabulary. What works and what doesn't depends on stylistic context more than modes or scales or theory, to me.

Admittedly there IS a large vocabulary of sounds to be found in playing with modes and scales, and it is beneficial to practice them.

but when the count off happens and the changes are coming, I'll default to chord tones + other tones + ears
 
Melodic minor scale is totally great !! A lot of spices in there when you the know the modes from it and where to apply it.

When you are not to sure what is the scale to play over certain chords there is a good chance that it is the minor scale that could be played ;-)

And let not forget the first mode of it, very useful.
 
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