Limiters & Avioms- HELP!!!!

[dubstacy]

Here's my current situation- I play in two bar/ casino bands, and I play for two churches.
In the bar bands, I use a Shure PSM 200-
In the churches, both locations use the Avioms-

I would like to start using a limiter in my in-ear setup(s)- Mainly because of multiple soundmen, some are great, while others might need more work. I've been "getting by" with SE215 earbuds, but I'm looking to get back into customs (like 1964 quads).

Setting up a limiter for the bar band appears to be straight foward: Aux send- limiter- PSM 200.
I'm not sure how to do it for the church settings, I understand that there's a cat5 cable going to the aviom, there's a TRS cable going out, is there a way I can stick a limiter after the aviom, and then to my earbuds? Can this be done?

If this is possible, can I also get a recommendation for a good limiter? Preferably under $200, new or used.

As far as "configuring a limiter" back at the console(s), let's say that's not an option- both locations, have different FOH consoles, along with a rotating schedule of sound crew.

Any insight you may have would be greatly appreciated-
Thanks,

 

[TedH]

Here's my current situation- I play in two bar/ casino bands, and I play for two churches.
In the bar bands, I use a Shure PSM 200-
In the churches, both locations use the Avioms-

I would like to start using a limiter in my in-ear setup(s)- Mainly because of multiple soundmen, some are great, while others might need more work. I've been "getting by" with SE215 earbuds, but I'm looking to get back into customs (like 1964 quads).

Setting up a limiter for the bar band appears to be straight foward: Aux send- limiter- PSM 200.
I'm not sure how to do it for the church settings, I understand that there's a cat5 cable going to the aviom, there's a TRS cable going out, is there a way I can stick a limiter after the aviom, and then to my earbuds? Can this be done?

If this is possible, can I also get a recommendation for a good limiter? Preferably under $200, new or used.

As far as "configuring a limiter" back at the console(s), let's say that's not an option- both locations, have different FOH consoles, along with a rotating schedule of sound crew.

Any insight you may have would be greatly appreciated-
Thanks,

I have this for my wired IEM setup as I'm the only guy in the band going in-ear. It works; already gone through mic feedback, dropped mics, headstock banging mic, etc, etc, etc. Behringer one looks like it is largely the same, but I wound up with the LD Systems one. Price is pretty fair in my mind @ US$100.

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EDIT: I have it velcroed to my amp head, but it would work just as well on a pedalboard. XLR in from board, XLR from my bass head and headphone extension cord. Easy-peasy. I did the outboard dbx 166 prior and that was much clunkier.

 

[s0c9]

Setting up a limiter for the bar band appears to be straight foward: Aux send- limiter- PSM 200.

NO need for this with the PSM200 - it has a built-in limiter in the body pack, as do MOST wireless IEM systems. Some are fixed like the 200, while other (more expensive) units have adjustable limiters.

However, a quick READ of the UG indicates FIXED limiting best suited for SCL2 earphones - which have a 16-Ohm impedance. YMMV might differ with buds with higher impedance.

From page 8 of the Shure UG
"The P2R Receiver has a non-defeatable (constantly active) limiter that automatically activates if the receiver output level exceeds a certain volume, which is calibrated specifically for the Shure SCL2 earphones. The LIM LED on the top of the unit lights up when the limiter is on. If the LIM LED blinks occasionally, turn down the volume of the receiver.* If the LED is on and you haven’t reached a high enough listening level, try re-inserting the earphones for a better seal, or adjust the mix that is being sent to the receiver to include only the most essential inputs.**
* When the LED is on, the volume will not increase.
**The limiter is designed to work best with the Shure SCL2 earphones. Using the P2R with other Shure earphones, or earphones made by other manufacturers, can result in higher limited volume levels."

For Avioms, there's nothing built in to the A-16ii's we use - unlike the Behringer P16M which DOES have an adjustable limiter.
For church, I keep the master volume low on the Aviom's and on Behringer units keep the limiter low. We have 4 worship centers with Aviom/Behringer units.
On my Senn G3, I have the limiter set at -12dB. The factory settings is -6dB.

If you REALLY WANT a limiter, yes, you can insert one after Avioms, and before PSM200.