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Line Selection and Synth modulation problem solving chains

Anemic_SluG

Anemic_SluG

Dec 1, 2009
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#1
OK masters of effects chains. Here is what I am looking to do. I have been covering some organ and synth sounds using a Boss SY-300. It sounds great and fills out the mix when doing some more modern tunes. I have always used the internal blender in the Boss unit to play both the synth/organ part along with the bass part. (because who really wants to hire a keyboard player lol) Now I am thinking of taking this next level and splitting my bass signal, and only routing the bass sound to my amp and the SY-300 signal to the PA to make it sound less connected to the bass. I can use the input on the SY-300 and then out to the PA, and then run a cable from the thru leg back to my board not breaking my chain and essentially splitting the signal, engaging the boss using with its foot switch. Seems like the easiest route. However there are times when I want only the synth sound and no bass which cannot happen using this signal path unless I run a mute switch after the Boss unit muting my board but not the original signal from the bass. So anyone have any ideas on how to get:
Bass and synth, Bass only, and synth only, sending the signal to 2 different AMP sources?
Initial thought was a Boss LS-2 line sector, but it has 2 effects chains, and only sends 1 output signal. Then I thought maybe a ABY switch would be the ticket, but I am trying to avoid phase or grounding issues as well. So if you have any ideas on how you would route this let me know.

Thanks
 
#3
Yes I have seen that, the issue there is it is not user selcatable in the fly. I can one of the options I need at any given time. But to punch in or out with synth only it would take a mute pedal for the bass chain. And that might be the easiest way of doing things.
 
#4
Anemic_SluG said:
Yes I have seen that, the issue there is it is not user selcatable in the fly. I can one of the options I need at any given time. But to punch in or out with synth only it would take a mute pedal for the bass chain. And that might be the easiest way of doing things.
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In that video, it sounded like he said it could be stored per patch? ...and there were global options...
 
#5
Anemic_SluG said:
OK masters of effects chains. Here is what I am looking to do. I have been covering some organ and synth sounds using a Boss SY-300. It sounds great and fills out the mix when doing some more modern tunes. I have always used the internal blender in the Boss unit to play both the synth/organ part along with the bass part. (because who really wants to hire a keyboard player lol) Now I am thinking of taking this next level and splitting my bass signal, and only routing the bass sound to my amp and the SY-300 signal to the PA to make it sound less connected to the bass. I can use the input on the SY-300 and then out to the PA, and then run a cable from the thru leg back to my board not breaking my chain and essentially splitting the signal, engaging the boss using with its foot switch. Seems like the easiest route. However there are times when I want only the synth sound and no bass which cannot happen using this signal path unless I run a mute switch after the Boss unit muting my board but not the original signal from the bass. So anyone have any ideas on how to get:
Bass and synth, Bass only, and synth only, sending the signal to 2 different AMP sources?
Initial thought was a Boss LS-2 line sector, but it has 2 effects chains, and only sends 1 output signal. Then I thought maybe a ABY switch would be the ticket, but I am trying to avoid phase or grounding issues as well. So if you have any ideas on how you would route this let me know.

Thanks
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Maybe this would work?

Saturnworks 2-Channel Active Mixer Pedal | Saturnworks Pedals

I had planned on using this when I was going to run my Roland TB3 with my bass rig and through my board. Never got around to it. But I think it will work well. Especially now that I have the HX effects and I can switch line levels on certain ins and outs.
 
#6
Alien8 said:
In that video, it sounded like he said it could be stored per patch? ...and there were global options...
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Yes they are global, the only issue which I think I may have figured out is the no bass with synth only cut in during a song. The song I am thinking of has bass and synth simultaneously as well as a synth only as well as bass only. So that would be scrolling through 3 patches.
I bought a ehx switchblade + to try. I’ll see if I can get it all routed correctly.
 
#7
Reading the manual, I see a few possibilities, however without having the unit, I don't know for sure.

Clean to amp: just use bypass.

Synth to PA: route the synth sound out sub, and mute the out.

Both: perhaps you can edit one stomp button on each preset you want to have both running, and to mute the clean. Possibly you could use a footswitch to switch the output volume between 0 & 100?
 

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