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Looking for a cab - small, loud with some nice lows, is it possible?

#81
Kokosowy said:
Hi there!

For some time I was using at home my Warwick BC80 combo which was quite nice in overall. After some time I started some music activities for local youths at our town community centre. Unfortunately Warwick BC80 can't get though drums or guitars so I need to change it for something else. Other participant has a spare Fender Rumble 100 which was much better, however its older version which weights a ton and we don't have any dedicated place there for our stuff, we can't leave our equipment at community centre, every two weeks we need to mount and dismount everything including carrying everything the stairs..

I think I'm really into head + cab right now. I think I would like to get a Hartke HA3500 for a head, but I'm not sure about a cab. 410 would be great but this is definitely too huge and heavy so there's no go for that. I think 210 would be fine but I heard 210 lacks some lows and I'm definitely a low-bass fan. I know I can have 210+115 setup but this is just another brick to carry over places. Regarding just single 115 can be too muddy and too slow.

Can you please suggest a 210 cab that could still have some pretty good low-freq capabilities? Or you have any other suggestions that still are OK regarding mobility? DI and mixer for now I'd say no for two reasons - we don't have any reliable "stage" monitors and because at home I'd also like to have a head + cab. :)

Thanks!
K
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Indeed, all depends on your budget. Markbass has a few 2x10 options you might like, I have the Ninja 500, weighs hardly anything, sounds great and loud.
 
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I use a GK MB500 with a TC Electronics RS210 and RS212 cab. I feel this gives me the best of all worlds. RS210 for small gigs, R212 for medium and both cabs for bigger and outdoor. The cabs are light and powerful on their own. I use the RS210 alot by itself and it never struggles. Plenty of volume and power. I couldn't be happier with my setup.
 
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dbsfgyd1 said:
It’s not light or cheap (unless bought used), but an Eden D-210xst would work. Great low end range rated a 500 watts rms. I use it with a 12 piece horn vocal band. Highly efficient. Mesa has a 1-12 cab might be a little more your cup of tea however.
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This is a GREAT choice if you can find one. The D210XST has the lowest frequency and tightest, fullest sounding low end of any Eden cab. Don't confuse it with the XLT. The XLT has the built-in mid-hump (which sounds great) but doesn't go as low and doesn't produce as tight of a low-end as the XST.

I would no longer recommend that you buy a "new" Eden D-210XST because the pricing on them went up significantly when Marshall closed the US cab shop and pulled Eden cab making into their Marshall facilities in the UK. The trip back and forth across the pond isn't cheap - speakers are still made in the US. New, Eden cabs are more expensive and not as good as the DNS cabs by DNA.

That stands to reason though because the fellow who designed all those Eden cabs and amps pre-Marshall (and some cabs later as contract work for Marshall) is David Nordschow and DNA is David Nordschow Amplification. He's done things with DNA that he didn't with Eden. But Eden cabs are still absolutely great cabs and are usually much less expensive and more commonly found used than any DNA cabs. That's actually a great cab you are more likely to find used than a DNA cab.
 
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Rip Van Dan said:
This is a GREAT choice if you can find one. The D210XST has the lowest frequency and tightest, fullest sounding low end of any Eden cab. Don't confuse it with the XLT. The XLT has the built-in mid-hump (which sounds great) but doesn't go as low and doesn't produce as tight of a low-end as the XST.

I would no longer recommend that you buy a "new" Eden D-210XST because the pricing on them went up significantly when Marshall closed the US cab shop and pulled Eden cab making into their Marshall facilities in the UK. The trip back and forth across the pond isn't cheap - speakers are still made in the US. New, Eden cabs are more expensive and not as good as the DNS cabs by DNA.

That stands to reason though because the fellow who designed all those Eden cabs and amps pre-Marshall (and some cabs later as contract work for Marshall) is David Nordschow and DNA is David Nordschow Amplification. He's done things with DNA that he didn't with Eden. But Eden cabs are still absolutely great cabs and are usually much less expensive and more commonly found used than any DNA cabs. That's actually a great cab you are more likely to find used than a DNA cab.
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As usual, spot on Dan.
 
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And the Phil Jones Bass C8 has a telescopic handle and Casters
 

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1x15 or 2x10 weigh about the same.

The overall speaker sensitivity and power handling of your 80 watt combo. Is little to low for a drumkit.

The efficiency of the speaker could be higher and of course slightly more power handling.

There is lots of light 1x12 cabinets out there. They handle more power and could go over a drumkit

Eventually the more speakers the better. And you'll see to cover a drumkit it eventually requires carrying a certain amount of weight. Even " light" cabinets have weight.

Most light rigs would be a 1x12 or 2x12 that can handle decent power.
Likewise something like a 4x10 has higher sensitivity so it takes less power to get to the same place. But the tradeoff for less power is more cabinet/weight

Eventually you'll see a single speaker is a single speaker. 2x driver situation is a minumum comfortable way to power over a drumkit.
 
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Holy moly! I didn't expect this kind of response!! Lot of reading for me, thank you!!

I haven't read everything yet (but I will!). Before I started this thread I was thinking about Markbass 102, but now I'm quite interested in Barefaced (even it seems more pricey). I checked here locally (Poland) and nobody is selling these here. I wonder where I can find it potentially to buy, whether these are available for direct ordering at Barefaced only.
 
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I have had great success with an Avatar210 cab, which I run through a Peavey Minimax; I am sure the HA3500 would be a good match as well. These cabs are very nice and inexpensive used. Just be sure you get the neo cab, which is about 45 lbs. but ergonomically built. I am 69 and carry it up 2 flights of stairs to my condo no problem. More bass if you lay it horizontally but works great vertically too, especially if you have PA support.
 
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Kokosowy said:
Holy moly! I didn't expect this kind of response!! Lot of reading for me, thank you!!

I haven't read everything yet (but I will!). Before I started this thread I was thinking about Markbass 102, but now I'm quite interested in Barefaced (even it seems more pricey). I checked here locally (Poland) and nobody is selling these here. I wonder where I can find it potentially to buy, whether these are available for direct ordering at Barefaced only.
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Direct order seems to be easily (tho' not particularly cheaply) done. For example, the Big Baby II will run you 809 GBP (shipping and handling included) as a resident of the EU. Good luck.

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The Bass Gallery has Barefaced cabs on their web site, but I don't know if these are in stock or for order.

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PS Looks like they are for order only.
 
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JeezyMcNuggles said:
I highly doubt it beats 2 k212s that cost 450 each brand new, which you can't find them brand new anymore anyway, so they'd be even cheaper.
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You would be supersized ,dukes genius is the crossover. You can hear the different frequency shift from the 5 to the 15. I have yet to hear that from any other cab. + the best part is that It is light (37 pounds) .
 

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