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Looking for a combo...

So I'm looking to make the move onto bigger ground from a 15 watt practice amp to a combo for gigging, and I have my eyes on the Eich XS112. 300 watt of very clean tone. Will 300 watts give more longevity through a super clean amp? Or do I need the 500 watts?
You will need more than a 112 for gigging anything other than small venues such as coffee shops. 300-watts into a 212 (or two 112's stacked together)will handle most situations for you. There are also some good 210 combos that will handle small and medium-sized gigs pretty well too. But a 112 by itself, isn't going to cut it.

The short of it is that if you buy a 112 combo, you'll find yourself shopping for an extension cab in short order.
 
Look at the Barefaced site for a One10 or Super Compact and then check out GK MB heads, Mesa Subway D-800 heads, Aguilar TH350/500, etc. You will be surprised at how much capability you can get (and future flexibility to make changes to your set-up) in some very portable sizes. There are obviously lots of options...the ones I've suggested were just to give some examples to show what some look like.
It'll blow the roof clean off your house. Dogs will howl. Children will cry. Your neighbors will call the constabulary. Scotland Yard will investigate.
Al Kraft...sorry I should have been more clear. The barefaced cabs are probably worth it, but they are quite pricey for sure. And Linnin...that damn sure made me chuckle. So basically, what I've concluded is that 300 watts and two speakers should be apt for me...question is now...what head and what cab? Let's say under £750, what would be the best head and cab pairing? Ideally I'd love an all tube or a hybrid head, but I guess it doesn't matter.
 
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Btw thanks for all the advice guys. It's really helpful and has stopped me from making an ill advised decision.

Scouting about, the new Ashdown HD-1 head with a RM-210 EVO cab would come to about £600. Thoughts?
Ashdown products are quite rare around my area, but there are lots of folks on TB who seem to have great luck with them - hopefully some will chime in. The Carvin and Traynor options are also great bargains and tend to be very well liked by many. I have no idea on how costly GK products are for you in the UK, but their combos and light weight pro line of products (MB heads and Neos cabs) are quite nice IME, and usually can had for a good price.
 
-- and then wound up with a basement full of unused combos after eventually having to buy a whole new rig.

As a supporting member you have an easy solution to that problem. If he's not in a band right now and plans to upgrade when that time comes, something like the 19 lb Rumble 100 would be plenty loud enough. My neighbors can hear me five houses down.
 
Personally, I would choose the Rumble over the Ashdown, but everyone has their own tone.

However, if I was in the UK with 700 pounds, I would definitely be considering Barefaced, even if I had to save up a little longer! Maybe you could find a used Barefaced?
 
Btw thanks for all the advice guys. It's really helpful and has stopped me from making an ill advised decision.

Scouting about, the new Ashdown HD-1 head with a RM-210 EVO cab would come to about £600. Thoughts?
The HD-1 looks like a brand new head, so I doubt you are going to find anyone that knows anything about them yet. However it does look quite a bit like a stripped down Rootmaster head. If that is the case, you would be getting a pretty loud amp with good tone but no Compressor or Drive. If that doesn't matter to you, that could be a pretty nice amp for a decent price. I however really like the Compressor and Drive on the Rootmaster and would pay more for that.
 
The HD-1 looks like a brand new head, so I doubt you are going to find anyone that knows anything about them yet. However it does look quite a bit like a stripped down Rootmaster head. If that is the case, you would be getting a pretty loud amp with good tone but no Compressor or Drive. If that doesn't matter to you, that could be a pretty nice amp for a decent price. I however really like the Compressor and Drive on the Rootmaster and would pay more for that.
I saw this head is tube, which for 299 is absurd. It can't be though, as it is 300 watts.
 
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I saw a pre-owned PJB Suitcase Combo. 4x5" at 300 watts? Is this good for the "more speakers, more loudness" rule?

Am I also going down the wrong path completely and would I better with a DI pedal?
The PJB stuff is very nice and includes a DI out capability. So you can use the combo to cover small gigs on its own and then use it as a stage monitor and DI out to the FOH system for medium/big stuff. The PJB gear I've played on was quite impressive and everyone I know that owns PJB equipment has been very happy with its reliability and performance.
 
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You will need more than a 112 for gigging anything other than small venues such as coffee shops. 300-watts into a 212 (or two 112's stacked together)will handle most situations for you. There are also some good 210 combos that will handle small and medium-sized gigs pretty well too. But a 112 by itself, isn't going to cut it.

The short of it is that if you buy a 112 combo, you'll find yourself shopping for an extension cab in short order.

Depends what kind of music you're playing and what type of musicians.
I've got a little 10" Schertler B10 combo amp that i use for every gig which pumps out 300w despite its small size. I generally play with acoustic guitar based bands and go through the PA so it's just used as a stage monitor.

Just the other week i played with a trio to a room of nearly 500 people and we could talk to each other on stage comfortably.
 
I saw a pre-owned PJB Suitcase Combo. 4x5" at 300 watts? Is this good for the "more speakers, more loudness" rule?

Am I also going down the wrong path completely and would I better with a DI pedal?

It really depends what you're after in terms of tone. I own a Suitcase "classic" (the first gen, with the ceramic magnets) and love it, but I don't necessarily recommend it to everyone. You mentioned previously you were preferably looking for a tube or hybrid amp, and PJB gear is super transparent, i.e it will not give you the overdrive or "baked in" sound you might be after if you're certain you absolutely want tubes for that reason. I guess you have to ask yourself if you absolutely want real tubes (vs a character pedal to emulate that sound), and why.

In terms of volume, if you ever end up in a rock band, you'd most likely need to add an extension cabinet for that combo. The Suitcase is about 350 W with an extra 4x5" cabinet (the PJB 4B). I play in a funk band that can be comparable with a rock band in terms of volume (horns are loud) and always bring my extra cab to gigs. I usually run the amp between 60 and 70% master volume to hear myself comfortably on stage, and the club PA does the heavy lifting using the DI out of the combo.

Finally, "combo" does not necessarily mean "portable". The Suitcase is built like a tank, but it also weighs like one and is an awkward lift. The new compact Suitcase amps are loaded with neo drivers and are lighter (plus a tad more powerful too).

That being said the Suitcase is the best sounding amp I've played through so far (to my taste) and I'm not getting rid of it anytime soon even if there are lighter and louder options out there. You need to go try a bunch of different amps of every style and determine what your preference is. Tubes? SS? Class D head? Transparent or "with character" ? Everyone here is going to recommend what they own (one guy shows up like clockwork in every thread to recommend the Rumble), but your tone goals might be different. There are a lot of good options these days so don't rush into it (no need to if you're not in a gigging band yet), just go try some amps until you fall in love.
 
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So I'm looking to make the move onto bigger ground from a 15 watt practice amp to a combo for gigging, and I have my eyes on the Eich XS112. 300 watt of very clean tone. Will 300 watts give more longevity through a super clean amp? Or do I need the 500 watts?
If you're moving from a 15 watt amp to something bigger there are so many options including Eich. But you need to go out and try all the combos before deciding on one. As you are probably pretty new at this, consider maybe the Ampeg, Gallien Krueger, or Fender combos before diving into an Eich combo. Where do you live and are you gigging? If you are gigging, the Eich 112 might eventually not be enough for gigging. I ask about where you live because being near music stores and repair facilities matter.
 
I like combos too. I have combo - AER AMP THREE. Amazing but expensive.

As another poster mentioned MARKBASS 121p - extraordinarily good for much less. Every decent player around here seems to have one. Do not buy anything without trying Markbass first.

MESA WALKABOUT I sold cos of shape and weight, too awkward but great sound.

Have separates too - Aguilar th500 and Bergantino but the AER nearly always gets the gig.

The accepted wisdom for reasons of flexibility is separate amp and cabs but for my situation - trudging up hills through cobbled streets and through sand to beachside chiringuitos, combo wins nearly every time and now we have subs, I'll change that to 100% of the time.

Good luck with your search
 
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Regarding portability, combos aren't always the best choice - and nowadays often aren't. You might want to give this some thought....

A 1x15 or 2x10 cab by itself is smaller, lighter, and cheaper than a combo of the same size. Nowadays, you can choose from 100s of heads that will fit inside a napsack. I keep a backup amp in my glove compartment. On top of that, it's a lot easier to upgrade when the time comes, without having to buy a whole new amp. When you add a speaker you also up the wattage because you're splitting the ohmage. In the amp I'm about to recommend, you go from 300 to 500 watts just adding an additional speaker.

That being said, I don't know what the prices are like overseas - but I've been through lots of combos, and combinations of amps and I couldn't be happier than I am now with Carvin. Their heads are the most versatile I ever played through, and their micro cabs are the only cabinets their size I ever used that didn't sound like toys. I currently have a BX700 with 2MB15s, but used a BX 500 for years and it was always loud enough. I only upped it to the 700 because I had one of the first BX500s to ever come out, and it had some issues.

If you buy a 300 watt combo, there might very well be some situations it's not powerful enough for. If you buy a tiny little head and a 1x15 cab, you get the same portability and can always add a cab.

OH YEAH - ALMOST FORGOT---- lots of clubs here in the US also have backlines, which for bass means they have a cabinet. You need to bring your own head. In those cases, you'd have a head to bring and wouldn't even have to deal with a cabinet.

I had an endorsement with one of the leading amp companies, and abandoned it to pay full price for my current setup. I can't recommend this stuff enough. BX Series Bass Amplifiers

The 1x155 cab is ridiculously inexpensive, too. $229, and if you sign up for email you'll get discount coupons on top of that.

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What he said.

I am also a very satisfied BX500 owner. I got mine used and run it through a couple of 112 cabinets and so far i have never needed more. I was thinking about getting the BX700 but my 500 has been trouble free and is serving my needs so i can't really justify the new head.

Either way, having 2 cabinets gives me the ability to use one or both, whichever works best for the application.

I'd give a lot of thought to a head and cabinet(s) befor making a purchase. A tiny 500W head in a gig bag with your bass means less weight in a combo so it will also be easier to hump if you are using public transport.
 
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When I need a combo for smaller gigs or tighter stages I use a Traynor SB 112. 200 very loud watts, 28 pounds. If you have FOH support, you don't need much more than that.
Ive got the SB 115, very happy so far with it and pretty much all I need for my bar gigs, can handle larger rooms surprisingly well too.

Difficult to go check out amps at music stores and get a tone that you "think" will work... music stores are do not have stages and a live band to play with. Many great sounding amp/cabs/combos do not necessarily sound great on their own but do sound great when playing with an actual band.
 
I don't know your Priceline. But Under 500 dollars
Fender Rumble 200
  • Ampeg BA-115 v2
  • Hartke HD150
  • Peavey Tour TKO 115
  • Gallien-Krueger MB 115-II
  • Over 500 dollars I like the Gallien-Krueger MB210-II 2x10" 500-Watt Ultra Light Bass Combo w/Horn. A little over 600 dollars and its also only 39 pounds... A good lite combo and loud for many gigs.