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#21
J.Wolf said:
Cuz some people prefer having a mute/pedal tuner that hits before the amp in the signal chain. If you had a head that didn't have a mute function, and were playing a gig where you were sending a DI line to the house, with that tuner in the configuration you mentioned, you'd be tuning for all to hear.
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Huh? The Behringer TU300 has two outputs - "out" and "bypass" and lists on their product page "Mute/bypass function for silent tuning".

As to the rest, if your bass is plugged into the tuner and that then goes to the DI box or the amp, what's the problem? There's your mute.
 
#22
xray said:
Most will disagree, but a tuner's, a tuner, a tuner, is a tuner....Behringer TU300 works just fine for 25.00. Plugs right into my GB Shtl 9.0, mute switch and you're good to go. Seriously, why waste valuable pedalboard space when you can have it sitting on your amp or cab. I'm just following what a pro taught me.
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I use this pedal myself and I'm gonna' have to agree.......440Hz is 440Hz. Doesn't matter how you get there.
 
#23
True, but 440 +/- 2 or 3 cents is a very different thing than 440 +/- 0.1 cents, to my ears anyways.

If its reliable, roadworthy, easy and flexible to use, can be seen in full sun, and accurate enough to do Pro setups with, I'm glad to pay $125 for one. If those factors aren't critical to someone , I'm the first to recommend not spending the dough, and just getting something more basic.
 
#24
TopJoey said:
Thanks for all of your advice. I should have originally mentioned that I would want to be using it for my bass as well as my guitar set up. Does that make a difference?
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Pitchblack plus has two input and an A/B stiching so you can have both plugged in and step on the A/B switch and you can go right over to the other intrument. BADASS!!! Also has an output and 3 plugs for other AC pedals so 1 adapter to this unit (correct Korg one for $14) and you won't need your other ones for 3 other pedals. Killer features, super bright, several strobe modes, etc.
 
#27
I'm interested in this Tru-Strobe pedal by planet waves also. I'm not sure why it's less known/used than the pitchblack even though its more accurate and has all the same features. Yes I know its uglier, and always appears brown in pics even though I think its chrome...

Who all uses the Tru-Strobe?
 
#28
My two favorites are the pitchblack and the Turbotuner.

Both have true bypass, so they don't mess with the top end of your tone (if you use other pedals, this is a bit of a moot point, but I don't like anything between my bass and amp that will impact the tone myself). So, each serves as a wonderful tune mute floor stomp button.

The Pitchblack is great if you are on a bit of a budget, and only use your tuner for stage tuning. The tracking is very good, and the accuracy if fine for tuning on the gig. Display is great.

The Turbotuner is, by far, the best tuner on the market, but of course, you will pay a bit for that. The fastest tracking out there (even on the open B), more accurate than the Strobostomp (and MUCH quicker tracking, much smaller size, lower prices, and much more road worthy). Great display (based on strobe technology), and perfect for both stage tuning and intonation/set-up work.

Worth every penny to me, and so far ahead of any other tuner out there as to be beyond debate. Whether you personally need all that in a tuner is a reasonable discussion point though.
 
#29
I actually have a turbo tuner and I love it. I guess the only things that I would improve is

1) a second output would be nice (in case I wanted to split my signal)
2) DC out for powering pedals
3) battery door
4) price (hey, it does cost 50-75% more than most other pedal tuners)

none of those is really a big deal, its still a solid brick of a tuner and AFAIK nothing is more accurate, at least on paper. I just wonder if having this much accuracy really matters.
 
#30
impactwrench said:
I just wonder if having this much accuracy really matters.
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FWIW, when I switched from Pitchblack to turbotuner I perceived a definite difference in accuracy and "in tune-ness". chords rang much more truly for example, and stuff like the classic major third wierdness was minimized, although never alleviated.

YMMV though, I mostly play 6, with alot of chording, which IMO is a better canvas for hearing intonation and tuning subtlety than low single notes. So if you're ear is pretty discerning, or if you want to be able to give yourself a legit setup, then it seems somewhat indispensable, and reasonably priced, compared to its competition which it blows away (cheaper, smaller, lighter, and more accurate than the strobostomp) or the pitchblack (which is not as well built, and is totally washed out in direct sunlight.....fail).
 
#31
Umm, all tuners are Not the same.

440 is not 440 - when your tuner thinks 437 is 440.

The different tuners use very different algorithms and yield very
different results.

If you want an Accurate tuner, you Do have to do some homework and spend a few dollars. Also, some pedals are true bypass, some are not. That's a big deal to some people.

Recommended: Korg Pitchblack.
 
#34
SBassman said:
Umm, all tuners are Not the same.

440 is not 440 - when your tuner thinks 437 is 440.

The different tuners use very different algorithms and yield very
different results.

If you want an Accurate tuner, you Do have to do some homework and spend a few dollars. Also, some pedals are true bypass, some are not. That's a big deal to some people.

Recommended: Korg Pitchblack.
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If the pitchblack thinks that one A string is 439 and another is 441, is that accurate enough? I don't know I'm just asking.

Then again is one pitchblack as accurate as another? Or is the manufacturer claim even correct? I was all set on a TC polytune until someone said they are only 3 cents accurate instead of 0.5 cents as claimed...

and ive seen people write that u might have perfect intonation on open and 12th fret, but 7th fret might be off by several cents, and thats just what we have to live with bc of the instrument design.

i sound like a troll but im really just trying to sort things out. i used a TU-2 (3 cents accuracy) for years but now use a turbo tuner since Im doing my own setups.
 
#35
I'm liking what I see of the ST-200 Turbo Tuner.... although the website is hard to follow. But for those who own one, can you confirm that a 9V adapter is NOT included with the tuner? And that it's a standard adapter size/form factor? It looks like this tuner is very capable of being used for accurate intonation... correct?
 
#36
geoff_in_nc said:
I'm liking what I see of the ST-200 Turbo Tuner.... although the website is hard to follow. But for those who own one, can you confirm that a 9V adapter is NOT included with the tuner? And that it's a standard adapter size/form factor? It looks like this tuner is very capable of being used for accurate intonation... correct?
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no adapter included but I just use it on 9V while doing setups. i also run it off a one spot or boss daisy chain.

I was just doing setups on 2 MIM jazz basses and im tweaking the intonation screw by like 1/8 turn to get the 12th fret to stop turning (strobing?). Of course a lot depends on how hard you fret, but the harmonic seems good too. of course the harmonic depends on where you put your fingertip with regards to the fret...how much of this really matters :)
 

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