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Lusithand Ground & Pound mk2 short review.

May 30, 2014
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A short review of the Lusithand Ground & Pound Mk2
Over the years of using bass overdrives, distortions, and fuzz pedals, I’ve heard countless variations, including many with clear RAT roots.
So, what makes this one special?
According to the manufacturer, this pedal is a preamp with a distortion function, and that description is spot on. As a preamp, it sounds extremely solid and convincing.
First of all, the low end.
It is massive — comparable to the Damnation Audio MBD-2 — inflating the bass so much that when you bypass the pedal, the clean tone can suddenly feel almost lifeless. A big part of this comes from the built-in clean compression. Even though it’s rated at 2:1, it feels closer to 4:1 or even higher.
Secondly, as you increase the gain, the overall volume barely changes.
What changes instead is the texture: at higher gain settings, the distortion slightly smears the low end within the distorted signal itself. Still, the master volume is extremely useful, and all four knobs are highly interactive.
The gain range mostly lives between low gain and upper mid-gain, never reaching classic bright Muff territory. That said, the overall character and texture of the Ground & Pound are very different: drier, sharper, and more complex — it both roars and buzzes at the same time.
This pedal has plenty of sweet spots.
It can work as an almost clean but aggressive and punchy preamp, a lo-fi flavored variation of that sound, or a nasty distortion reminiscent of the Tech 21 XB Driver. Due to the lack of a crossover, it’s not as tight or controlled as the XB Driver and feels a bit more raw and smeared — but that’s part of its character.
There is one especially important feature for me.
Most pedals I’ve owned react very differently to pick playing versus fingerstyle, often requiring completely different settings. With the Ground & Pound Mk2, I didn’t touch the knobs at all — and never felt uncomfortable switching techniques. That’s highly unusual for me, and very welcome.
This is an aggressive pedal by nature.
Not “evil for the sake of evil” — it’s simply designed that way. In my mental map, it sits somewhere between the Damnation Grizzly and the Tech 21 XB Driver, making it an excellent example of a mid-gain bass distortion.
At around 170 BPM, playing steady eighth notes, it cuts through the mix confidently without needing extra compression or a noise gate. At higher gain settings, feedback does appear — and I personally enjoy using it as part of my playing.
Subjectively, this pedal feels dark, hostile, and intense — associations of decay, black magic, and impending doom come to mind. These are purely my own impressions; yours may differ. One thing is certain, though: this is definitely not a friendly pedal like the EBS The Drive. It hits hard and immediately.
A difference between modes Ground and Pound is just a scoop of mids/flat mids, as i can feel it.
-10 db switch is good to have, but i still have not found a usage to it.
Two more important points.
On both 4- and 5-string basses, including down-tuned setups, the sound never fell apart. It didn’t choke, lose punch, or collapse — something I’ve experienced with many drives in the past. Texture and punch were preserved at almost any gain setting, up until around 3 o’clock, where the character starts to shift noticeably.
The pedal works equally well with both of my basses, which are very different instruments:
• Sadowsky Metroline Vintage JJ Ash 4, strung with Dunlop Flatwounds
• Warwick Dolphin Custom Ordered, strung with DR Drop Tune strings
To sum it up:
If you play heavier music, this is absolutely a pedal worth having on your board.
I’ve also ordered the Lusithand Rosa, and I plan to buy the Alma Mk3 once it’s back in stock. I’ll probably pick up the F1 as well when it moves from prototype to production. That said, I’ll soon have at least four compressors across two boards — and I’m not done experimenting yet.
I also plan to give another RAT-style pedal a chance: the infamous Big Booty Judy, well-known in certain circles. Honestly, I expect a Mk2 version with a master volume at some point, because without one, it’s predictably very tricky to dial in.
Muffs and RATs are often pedals you end up owning in multiple versions — just like choruses and phasers.
So yes.
The Lusithand Ground & Pound Mk2 is an absolute beast, and it exceeded my expectations.
And I say that as a very spoiled bass player.
 

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Do you find that you use the volume knob much? To me, I think about 1:30 on the volume is same level as pedal off. Being that the Dis and Mix don't really affect the overall volume, I don't tend to really touch the volume knob. I can't see where this would ever be below noon..
 
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I have two V1s on my main board and rehearsal board. Really simplified my tone section. It's like having 4 pedals in one. I don't find that I have a need for additional compression unless I'm going clean DI into a DAW ahead of the GnP. It really is a stellar piece of kit.

Re: the dB pad and mid-cut on the MkII, I have a pseudo trick I'm using to emulate this by using a Demeter BEQ-PB ahead of the GnP to take the input level down a bit as well as create a slight smiley scoop.

Assuming I ever gig regularly again, I'll probably pick up a MkII for these reasons :cool:
 
A short review of the Lusithand Ground & Pound Mk2
You didn't mention the G&P Mk1 so I'll assume you never had it, but I'd be curious about a comparison. I owned the Mk1 for awhile -- really cool pedal, but didn't make it into my top 5 and I'm not a hoarder so I let it go.

I'm guessing the Mk2 is not radically different from Mk1... but I should never assume. On a related note: my Alma Mk1 has been superb, so I recently grabbed the Mk3 which has all the wonderfulness of the Mk1 along with some welcome new features.
 
You didn't mention the G&P Mk1 so I'll assume you never had it, but I'd be curious about a comparison. I owned the Mk1 for awhile -- really cool pedal, but didn't make it into my top 5 and I'm not a hoarder so I let it go.
Lots of old crew in this thread!

I had the Mk1 as well, but also moved it because I wound up using it strictly for the eq and compressor at the end of my chain. But they were cool features. Maybe the Damnation Amp Grinder will be my Rat pedal I actually like the drive of.
Right now I've really been enjoying the Kasleder Jellyfish into my Reiner Gasoline. I call the Gasoline the "boomerang" because it always makes its' way back into my main pedals.
 
Lots of old crew in this thread!

I had the Mk1 as well, but also moved it because I wound up using it strictly for the eq and compressor at the end of my chain. But they were cool features. Maybe the Damnation Amp Grinder will be my Rat pedal I actually like the drive of.
Right now I've really been enjoying the Kasleder Jellyfish into my Reiner Gasoline. I call the Gasoline the "boomerang" because it always makes its' way back into my main pedals.
Hi, man!
 
I can't believe how many years I've been on here esp talking to guys like you and @Fuzzbass on and off over the years. Glad to see you all on here.:)

(I was in my late 20's, now I'm almost 49)
Thank you for inspiration you gave me! I still remember you recommended MXR Bass Distortion here. I even got it a couple of times. You are the Rat Man.
Fuzzroscious, Blower Box...
But, somehow i went to Lusithand. G&P2 and Tech21 XB Driver are my choices to go slipknot.
I am glad to see you here, in my almost 49!
 
Thank you for inspiration you gave me! I still remember you recommended MXR Bass Distortion here. I even got it a couple of times. You are the Rat Man.
Fuzzroscious, Blower Box...
But, somehow i went to Lusithand. G&P2 and Tech21 XB Driver are my choices to go slipknot.
I am glad to see you here, in my almost 49!
I actually never had the MXR, or at least I don't remember recommending it. I always liked the Tech21 Oxford, the Darkglass B3K, then later the VMT. But as we all use different basses and they react differently every pedal/preamp will sound different with our basses.

I just scored a Damnation Amp Grinder on Reverb. My poor Reiner Gasoline has come back from every pedal I've tried in the last 6 years so we'll see how it goes. I do love the Jellyfish as of late, and it stacks really well. I think the "angry piano tone" suits my taste really well. I keep trying Rats and seem to only like them on low gain. The G&P ver1, and the PSHC Tyrannosaurus Rat are both pedals I have owned/own, but I only seem to like their EQ and low gain tones, as they get sloppy/mushy to me, but not in a cool fuzzed out way.

So maybe the Amp Grinder will change that:)

It's why I always liked Rickenbackers, and a few years ago built myself a rock maple P bass with a shaved thin-like-a-Ric body, and then later added an aluminum neck to it(then reversed the G&L P pickup to get the bass side more attack).
 
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Great review and I agree on all counts. I play in a cover band and use the MKII for my modern drive tone, and sometimes stacked with an Aguilar Agro that I use for low and medium drive settings. That combo can melt faces if that’s what you’re into.
 
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I was experimenting with the board and swapped the delay out for the Tech 21 XB-Driver, and I was pleasantly surprised that the Lucithand Ground and Pound MK2 sounded no less aggressive than the XB Driver even at relatively low gain settings. It also has a fairly rich texture, though it’s still smoother, less cocky and unruly than the Tech 21.
That said, the XB Driver is noticeably more expensive, but that’s not even the main issue. The real problem is its size — it’s practically three times wider, or at least about 2.5 times wider. And there’s another annoying detail: the XB Driver requires 18V power. You can run the Ground and Pound at 18V as well, but honestly, I liked it more at 9V.
Rosa, on the other hand, definitely sounds best at 18V — that’s already been confirmed through testing. I like the tone much more that way: less vintage, more modern.
In terms of output level, even at 9V the Ground and Pound, Rosa, and Alma MK3 all have plenty of headroom — enough to push a solid-state amp, in my case a Gallien-Krueger.
 

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Just got a Lusithand G&P mk2 from the 'verb (thx Dan's Basses!) and have just checked it out at low volume at home but from what I can tell @Driven Crane 's review above is spot on - its a great sounding OD/Dist pedal! at low dist levels it responds great to dynamic changes and goes from clean(ish) to a nice growl, and all the higher dist levels sound great as well. One nice feature is as you turn the dist up the volume is compensated for so you don't have to lower the volume at the same time. The EQ tilt can give a nice sizzle to your sound or beef up the lower mids.

It can really give a nice Chancellor/Tool bass sound. I was comparing it to the Way Huge smalls P&P bass dist and the Idiotbox Blower Box Bass Dist pedals - which are 2 of my favs because their low end is massive as well - and while it had a slightly diff sound - maybe tighter low-mids - it compared really well and I'll replace one of them with it after testing them all out with my band (I've found pedals have different sounds when playing thru a real rig - esp thru a tube amp - and playing with drummers/guitars).

Question for folks - did running it at 18v make much of a sonic difference? and - do you find yourself mainly running it Ground mode or Pound mode?
 
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