Mesa Boogie M9 & M6 Carbine Settings...

[onegunguitar]

As far as I know, you never want to plug two cables running from an amp into the same cab. Those extra inputs are for daisy chaining (or hooking up an amp with only 1 speaker out) to two cabs.

The two outputs are NOT stereo outs. The M6 and M9 are mono output heads. True stereo heads will have two separate inputs going into 2 separate power amps.

 

[Baird6869]

Do you know what the upgrade consists of?...is it a major repair?

Thanks again

Huge.

New heatsink, new fans, additional venting, etc. Major work.

 

[Scott McArron]

With Lakland 55-02 into a Berg HS210 or 2:

Tone profile 2
Bass 10:00
Mid 2:00
Treble 10:00

EQ
Cut the lowest lows 50%
Leave other lows at 0
Boost low mids about 65%
Cut high mids about 15%
Leave treble at 0

Compressor at 9:00 and 9:00

That gets me about where I like it. Slammin'!!

Edit: picture added, the graphic EQ is just slightly different than how I normally use it. The last stage I was on actually robbed my of some lows, the bastard! One of my bandmates said it was the first time that amp ever sounded thin, so I bumped the bass up just a notch to where you see it now. It sounded incredible!

 

[Scott McArron]

Have to say that I could never get the M6 where I liked it when it came to the mids. The graphic EQ of the M9 was essential for me.

 

[Randyt]

Thanks guys for all the help.

 

[L.A. BASS]

Have to say that I could never get the M6 where I liked it when it came to the mids. The graphic EQ of the M9 was essential for me.

Hey Scott McArron,
I agree about the M6. I know that Mesa says it's the same amp. But I have gone into the Mesa Store in Hollywood and listened to the M6 and the M9 side by side and the extra headroom in the M9 definitely sounds better. Even the guys in the store agreed. The M6 sounded good, but it was a little looser sounding and more rubbery. The M9 has more speed, focus and authority.

So, the power in terms of volume is IMO not a factor between both amps, but in terms of sound and feel and natural compression from hitting the amp a little harder from all those 300 extra amazing Boggie watts, I think makes a huge difference. It's worth the extra money for what you get from the M9. And for whats out there from other American made companys or made anywhere else for that matter. It's very fairly priced...

 

[Baird6869]

And for whats out there from other American made companys or made anywhere else for that matter. It's very fairly priced...

Totally agree with you. I have recently owned an Ampeg SVT-CL, Orange, Genz Benz, Aguilar, GK, etc. and the M9 kills everything else I have owned.

Am I a total fanboy? Yup!

 

[Jim Carr]

Thanks guys for all the help.

mega threads of possible interest:


http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/mesa-m9-mega-thread-657317/

and

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f15/mesa-boogie-m9-megathread-pt-ii-824665/

 

[Scott McArron]

Hey Scott McArron,
I agree about the M6. I know that Mesa says it's the same amp. But I have gone into the Mesa Store in Hollywood and listened to the M6 and the M9 side by side and the extra headroom in the M9 definitely sounds better. Even the guys in the store agreed. The M6 sounded good, but it was a little looser sounding and more rubbery. The M9 has more speed, focus and authority.

So, the power in terms of volume is IMO not a factor between both amps, but in terms of sound and feel and natural compression from hitting the amp a little harder from all those 300 extra amazing Boggie watts, I think makes a huge difference. It's worth the extra money for what you get from the M9. And for whats out there from other American made companys or made anywhere else for that matter. It's very fairly priced...

I never got to A/B the 2. Didn't notice a difference myself. I know my M9 does get a lot tighter than the M6 just because I can drop the sub lows with the EQ and tighten things up with the compressor real nicely. It's just phenomenal!

Funny that I'm writing this just a few minutes after posting it for sale in the classifieds. I'm going to try going light weight again with the Tecamp 1 rack unit heads. We'll see if it works out this time or not. There just always seems to be something missing with the light stuff. Maybe the Germans do it right. They're known for their engineering after all. The M9 is just way more juice than I need for on stage monitoring through a little 210. The volume knob never sees anything past 8:30 or 9 o' clock and I still get complaints about volume.

 

[Scott McArron]

Totally agree with you. I have recently owned an Ampeg SVT-CL, Orange, Genz Benz, Aguilar, GK, etc. and the M9 kills everything else I have owned.

Am I a total fanboy? Yup!

My little M9 dragon has slain all other amps by a good margin, indeed! It does just about everything well except for that authentic, slow vintage tube tone. It sounds too quick for that. But every time I hit a note it makes me smile more than any other amp I've tried no matter what genre I play.

 

[L.A. BASS]

Hey Scott McArron,
I'm shocked... Why not keep it and get the Tecamp amp as well. At least you can make a better decession after you A-B them side by side... It's not like you can't ever re-buy the M9 I guess. You just seem to glow about the sound it has been giving you!!!

 

[Scott McArron]

Hey Scott McArron,
I'm shocked... Why not keep it and get the Tecamp amp as well. At least you can make a better decession after you A-B them side by side... it's not like you can't ever re-buy the M9. You just seem to glow about the sound it has been giving you!!!

Yes, I've known to say a few positive things about my M9. ;P Wish it would fit in my gig bag and have an aux in with headphone jack though for my late night practices.

I'm not totally just gonna let her go until I can get a good A/B in with the Puma 500 ( that I just ordered ). If I can live with the tone/weight ratio then I'll make the full switch. In the past I've always ended up with heavier gear after trying lighter gear, so I am a bit wary of going this route. But I am moving to Germany soon and doubt I'll have a car until I get established there in my career and get some real savings in the bank.

Who knows what I'll end up doing. I am pretty excited to play through some German engineering though!

 

[L.A. BASS]

Good luck... Enjoy your new journey...

 

[L.A. BASS]

WARNING... I heard the M9 is going to have a price increase on February 1st from $1349 to $1599. So if your planning on buying one, do it very soon or it's going to cost you a little longer in the pocket!

 

[Baird6869]

WARNING... I heard the M9 is going to have a price increase on February 1st from $1349 to $1599. So if your planning on buying one, do it very soon or it's going to cost you a little longer in the pocket!

Good news for those of us that own one, but a 15%+ increase? Seems kinda steep. $1600 for the M9 is pricy IMO!

 

[Tomkiss]

I love my M9 Carbine. Been using it for about 10 months now and about the only thing that has been comparable to my ear is the Tecamp Black Jag 900. The Tecamp is amazing but I love my Carbine too much to make the switch. Anyways here are my settings for my 3 basses.

Number 1

Bass: Fbass BN5 (Ash body with Ebony Fingerboard, Fbass Strings)
Gain: 10:00
Bass: 1:00
Mids: 10:00
Treble: 12:00
GEQ: Off
Compressor: On (Threshold at 9:00, Ration at 12:00)
Voicing: 2 (10:30 one)
Cab: Fbass 2x12 (1300 watts at 4ohm)

Number 2

Bass: Fbass VF5 (ash body, maple fingerboard, DR Marcus Miller strings)
Gain: 10:00
Bass: 1:00
Mids: 10:00
Treble: 12:00
GEQ: Off
Compressor: On (Threshold at 9:00, Ration at 12:00)
Voicing: 2 or 3 (2 for slap, 3 for fingerstyle funk)
Cab: Fbass 2x12 (1300 watts at 4ohm)

Number 3

Bass: Fbass BNF5 (Fretless with ash body, Gaboon Ebony fingerboard, LaBella Nylon tape strings)
Gain: 11:00
Bass: 12:00
Mids: 10:00
Treble: 12:00
GEQ: Off
Compressor: On (Threshold at 9:00, Ratio at 12:00)
Voicing: 4
Cab: Fbass 2x12 (1300 watts at 4ohm)

My first listed bass is pretty much my standard use most of the time workhorse. I use it for rock gigs, country gigs, pop gigs and so on. If I'm feeling lazy and only take one bass on a gig this is it and with my M9 and that bass I can pretty much get whatever kind of sound I want with a flick of the voicing dial or an adjustment of my on bass EQ.

Bass 2 is my slap/funk/R+B setup (when I'm not lazy and just take one bass)

Bass 3 is my fretless setup. Jazz gigs and I use that alot for rock ballads when I'm not lazy and drag it out to rock gigs .

I played for about a year and a half using a Mesa 2x12 powerhouse cab and I really enjoyed it. My only thought for an upgrade was possibly a Bergantino 2x12 but I wasn't quite ready to pull the trigger on it. Last month I played into the new Fbass 2x10 cab and then the 2x12 and that pretty much ended the debate for me. If anyone gets a chance to try their Carbines though an Fbass cab I strongly recommend you give it a shot. I know for me anyways the tone that I had in my brain and could never quite get on stage but came oh so close to is now something I'm getting on a regular basis

Tom

 

[Baird6869]

Tomkiss,

Where did you get the cab, George's shop or a retailer?

Didn't know he even made cabs!

 

[Tomkiss]

Tomkiss,

Where did you get the cab, George's shop or a retailer?

Didn't know he even made cabs!

They have been working on cabs there for quite awhile but just started selling them. Right now you can't get them from anywhere but George down in the Fbass factory. I was there the other day and he has 2x10's and 2x12's in stock and a whole bunch of different Techamps to run into them. Still love my Carbine though .

Tom

 

[L.A. BASS]

I love my M9 Carbine. Been using it for about 10 months now and about the only thing that has been comparable to my ear is the Tecamp Black Jag 900. The Tecamp is amazing but I love my Carbine too much to make the switch. Anyways here are my settings for my 3 basses.

Number 1

Bass: Fbass BN5 (Ash body with Ebony Fingerboard, Fbass Strings)
Gain: 10:00
Bass: 1:00
Mids: 10:00
Treble: 12:00
GEQ: Off
Compressor: On (Threshold at 9:00, Ration at 12:00)
Voicing: 2 (10:30 one)
Cab: Fbass 2x12 (1300 watts at 4ohm)

Number 2

Bass: Fbass VF5 (ash body, maple fingerboard, DR Marcus Miller strings)
Gain: 10:00
Bass: 1:00
Mids: 10:00
Treble: 12:00
GEQ: Off
Compressor: On (Threshold at 9:00, Ration at 12:00)
Voicing: 2 or 3 (2 for slap, 3 for fingerstyle funk)
Cab: Fbass 2x12 (1300 watts at 4ohm)

Number 3

Bass: Fbass BNF5 (Fretless with ash body, Gaboon Ebony fingerboard, LaBella Nylon tape strings)
Gain: 11:00
Bass: 12:00
Mids: 10:00
Treble: 12:00
GEQ: Off
Compressor: On (Threshold at 9:00, Ratio at 12:00)
Voicing: 4
Cab: Fbass 2x12 (1300 watts at 4ohm)

My first listed bass is pretty much my standard use most of the time workhorse. I use it for rock gigs, country gigs, pop gigs and so on. If I'm feeling lazy and only take one bass on a gig this is it and with my M9 and that bass I can pretty much get whatever kind of sound I want with a flick of the voicing dial or an adjustment of my on bass EQ.

Bass 2 is my slap/funk/R+B setup (when I'm not lazy and just take one bass)

Bass 3 is my fretless setup. Jazz gigs and I use that alot for rock ballads when I'm not lazy and drag it out to rock gigs .

I played for about a year and a half using a Mesa 2x12 powerhouse cab and I really enjoyed it. My only thought for an upgrade was possibly a Bergantino 2x12 but I wasn't quite ready to pull the trigger on it. Last month I played into the new Fbass 2x10 cab and then the 2x12 and that pretty much ended the debate for me. If anyone gets a chance to try their Carbines though an Fbass cab I strongly recommend you give it a shot. I know for me anyways the tone that I had in my brain and could never quite get on stage but came oh so close to is now something I'm getting on a regular basis

Tom

Hey,
Now that's a fine bit of work and information you just gave us all. Thanks for the very focused thoughts and descriptions. I'm trying to get warm a cozy with that #4 setting as long as I up the bass to around 2:00. Food for thought...

 

[Jim Carr]

What you found is not far from what I use for Reggae with a (passive) Road Worn Fender Jazz!

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...Edit: picture added, the graphic EQ is just slightly different than how I normally use it. The last stage I was on actually robbed my of some lows, the bastard! One of my bandmates said it was the first time that amp ever sounded thin, so I bumped the bass up just a notch to where you see it now. It sounded incredible!