I'm sure this has been discussed plenty of times, but I'm lazy, I like to get current information, and the search functions don't always work as expected.
Now that Mesa is making a grand return to Europe, I will hopefully soon be getting my TT-800. I have not yet ordered a cab specifically for that amp though, and I'm not sure if I should either.
I've noticed over the years that many manufacturers don't like to give specific details about their cabs, at least not to a point where you can easily compare response graphs or such. I understand that a response graph for a guitar/bass cab can be very misleading, since were not really looking for a flat response in such a situation anyways. But I do think that it would make comparisons easier, when you have a reference point.
My main question is, is there some place where someone has accurately, and reliably, measured all kinds of cabs (for me personally the Mesa subway line would be interesting), and compared them against one another. Maybe with sound samples, but especially with graphs and other info.
I came to this question, because I've been wondering how much difference you would get from let's say a Mesa subway 212, compared to a 112. The 212 obviously will have more output, but is that all there is?
Another example would be the Ampeg 210s, which from what I've read, are supposed to sound like a small 810. How accurate is that claim?
I know that almost all manufacturers will provide lengthy texts that aim to show the customer how incredibly amazingly awesome THEIR product is. But I haven't found anything real in depth yet. And when I read how Agedhorse talks about the design of the Mesa amps and cabs, I sometimes wonder why Mesa doesn't provide something that in depth on their website. A bit more about the acutal intent of the designs, and less about how the products are amazing and you should buy them.
Now that Mesa is making a grand return to Europe, I will hopefully soon be getting my TT-800. I have not yet ordered a cab specifically for that amp though, and I'm not sure if I should either.
I've noticed over the years that many manufacturers don't like to give specific details about their cabs, at least not to a point where you can easily compare response graphs or such. I understand that a response graph for a guitar/bass cab can be very misleading, since were not really looking for a flat response in such a situation anyways. But I do think that it would make comparisons easier, when you have a reference point.
My main question is, is there some place where someone has accurately, and reliably, measured all kinds of cabs (for me personally the Mesa subway line would be interesting), and compared them against one another. Maybe with sound samples, but especially with graphs and other info.
I came to this question, because I've been wondering how much difference you would get from let's say a Mesa subway 212, compared to a 112. The 212 obviously will have more output, but is that all there is?
Another example would be the Ampeg 210s, which from what I've read, are supposed to sound like a small 810. How accurate is that claim?
I know that almost all manufacturers will provide lengthy texts that aim to show the customer how incredibly amazingly awesome THEIR product is. But I haven't found anything real in depth yet. And when I read how Agedhorse talks about the design of the Mesa amps and cabs, I sometimes wonder why Mesa doesn't provide something that in depth on their website. A bit more about the acutal intent of the designs, and less about how the products are amazing and you should buy them.
