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Mesa cab thoughts

Mesa PowerHouse stack preference?

  • Two 1x15

    Votes: 11 30.6%

  • Two 2x12

    Votes: 19 52.8%

  • 1x15 & 2x12

    Votes: 2 5.6%

  • 2x12 & 2x10

    Votes: 4 11.1%
  • Total voters
    36
#22
The new stuff is much much lighter. They had an era where they seemed to be making them out of lead lined steel reinforced concrete. Sounded wonderful, but required an industrial forklift to move. I own a roadready 4-10 from that era that sounds great but is an invitation to hernia every time I have to lift it.
 
#27
projectapollo said:
I'm going to try bi-amping the 2x10 and 1x15 with adjustable crossover. I'm a sound guy, too, and this approach is similar to running a PA or high end stereo.
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The problem with that plan is, both of those cabs are full range, so neither would be optimal for high or low frequency duty, over the other. It would sound best running them both full range, as they're designed.
 
#33
rpsands said:
Terrible design. Adequate performance. Would rather have basically anything in the Mesa line other than that monstrosity.
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Agreed 100% - I A/B'd one with my PH610 before making the purchase - the 610 had stronger lows, was clearer voiced, and couldn't be made to fart out, regardless of what I did - whereas, I could make the PH1000 fart out... Also, the PH610 was louder than the PH1000 - although either will easily get loud enough for any reasonable band setting...

Last winter, I did a gig in a headlining band, and the opening act's bassist brought a PH1000... After talking a bit, we decided(for convenience of changeover) to let him play through my PH610, but using his amp - afterwards, he told me that my PH610 was a way better cab than his PH1000, and that he'd trade in a heartbeat if given the chance... I know that's purely anecdotal, but take it for what it's worth...

Also, I've played through Ampeg's 410+115 cab a few times, and it sucked - side by side, my Peavey 410TVX + 210TVX absolutely slayed it - there was no contest at all...

I really like Mesa gear in general, but their PH1000 and 1200 cabs are the worst they ever made, IMO...



- georgestrings
 
#35
projectapollo said:
In the audio world, speakers perform better when band limited, even when they are full range. Same for amps. You don't think think this applies to bass amplification?
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Yes but those are usually designed for bi amping or crossovers. You're not going to max out your JBL EON at 40hz and expect it to sound great.
These are full range cabs and again that 115 isn't a sub. You could try it but it's only going to make them sound worse and not get an accurate representation of what they do. If you want some PA speakers to separately power and x over that's another option but no these won't sound better doing this.
 
#36
projectapollo said:
In the audio world, speakers perform better when band limited, even when they are full range. Same for amps. You don't think think this applies to bass amplification?
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When you have two cabs, one that's effectively 60-2500hz, and one which is 56-2000hz, what goal will you achieve by biamping?

You should use a high pass of some sort, around 30-50hz, but low passing a cabinet capable of even response up to 2khz at 200hz is not going to get you a damn thing other than a decrease in apparent volume above 200hz.

You may get some minor increase in clarity by band passing the 1x15 to 50 to 200hz and the 2x10 to 200 to 5khz or something, but it's going to be of negligible improvement compared to the 3db+ of volume you're sacrificing.
 

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