Mesa Powerhouse 410 Pricedrop?

[Phantomfears]

I just saw Sweetwater listing a traditional Mesa Powerhouse 410 for $899. I have been watching these for a while and bought used due to the price. Did Mesa lower the price or is this a different cab?

 

[jkav]

This looks like one of their new line of "Traditional" Powerhouse cabs, which are being introduced with the new Strategy and Prodigy all-tube amps.

I'm not sure what distinguishes the Traditional line from the "Vintage Powerhouse" cabs (which, AFAIK, are the regular "Powerhouse" speakers with different grills, and perhaps Tolex and/or corner bumbers) -- perhaps no tweeter? Different grills/Tolex/corners? I'm sure others can chime in to clarify.

Edit: Here's a photo of the new Traditional cabs:

 

[Phantomfears]

Yes, the picture and description appear to be the same as the Powerhouse that was previously listed at $1,099. I cannot see any difference.

 

[packhowitzer]

I got my ph 410s new from Guitar Center for 799 each because my GC said it was no longer going to carry Mesa Boogie Bass gear. That was in 2007 or 2008. I also bought a new ph 115 for something like 599. The funny thing is- I go to GC every 3 or 4 months and there is always new Mesa Bass gear- M9s and M6s and such. So I don't know what kind of deal i got , but I got it and I'm not complaining.

 

[Phantomfears]

I got my ph 410s new from Guitar Center for 799 each because my GC said it was no longer going to carry Mesa Boogie Bass gear. That was in 2007 or 2008. I also bought a new ph 115 for something like 599. The funny thing is- I go to GC every 3 or 4 months and there is always new Mesa Bass gear- M9s and M6s and such. So I don't know what kind of deal i got , but I got it and I'm not complaining.

That sounds like a screaming deal! I always see Mesa gear in my local GC as well.

 

[spector_boogie]

I heard it was rumored the new "Traditional" line was going to be either sealed or more along the lines of a sealed cab, but I think that's not actually the case now, so I'm interested to see what the differences are as well.

Also AFAIK, the "new" price for a Powerhouse 410 or 212 is $899 anyway. I bought both of my current PH212 cabs for that price.

 

[nitromullet]

New for 2012! TRADITIONAL POWERHOUSE™ FEATURES: Traditional Chambered Design • Legendary Mesa Quality Construction • Custom PowerHouse™ Speakers • Speakon & 1/4” Inputs & Outputs • Tilt & Roll™ Transport System w/Rear Glide Rails (6x10 & 8x10) • Trak-Loc™ Removable Casters (4x10 & 1x15) • Recessed Metal Handles • Black Bronco Vinyl with Black Twisted Jute Grille and Silver Piping • Lexan Corners • Slip Cover
*Optional casters available for 2x10 - See Hardware & Acces. on Pg 6

• 2x10 • 400 Watts RMS • 8 (std) or 4 Ohm (*no casters)
• 4x10 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm
• 6x10 • 900 Watts RMS • 4 Ohm (only)
• 8x10 • 1200 Watts RMS • 8 or 4 (standard) Ohm
• 1x15 • 300 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm

VINTAGE & STANDARD POWERHOUSE™ MAIN FEATURES: Tuned Front Ported Tri-Port Porting™ Design • Premium AA Marine Grade Baltic Birch Cabinet w/Aviation Style Bracing for superior strength & reduced weight – Legendary Mesa Quality Construction • Custom PowerHouse™ Speakers • Player Control™ Network featuring: Selectable 3-point Crossover (3k/4k/5k), Premium Horn Attenuator, Instant Reset Horn Protection, Speakon & 1/4” Inputs & Outputs • Tilt & Roll™ Transport System w/Rear Glide Rails (6x10, 8x10, 4x12, 2x15 & PH 1200) • Trak-Loc™ Removable Casters (4x10, 2x12 & 1x15) • Recessed Metal Handles

VINTAGE POWERHOUSE™: Main features listed above plus: Black Bronco Vinyl with Black Twisted Jute Grille and Silver Piping • Lexan Corners • Slip Cover
*Optional casters available for 2x10 - See Hardware & Acces. on Pg 6

• 2x10 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (std) or 4 Ohm (*no casters)
• 4x10 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm
• 6x10 • 900 Watts RMS • 4 Ohm (only)
• 8x10 • 1200 Watts RMS • 8 or 4 (standard) Ohm
• 2x12 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (std) or 4 Ohm
• 4x12 • 1200W RMS • 8 or 4 (std) Ohm
• 1x15 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm
• 2x15 • 1200 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm
• PH 1200 • 1200W RMS • 1x15, 4x10 & HF • 8 or 4Ω (std)

STANDARD POWERHOUSE™: Main features listed above plus: Black Bronco Vinyl and choice of Black (standard) or Silver Metal Grille • Lexan Corners • Slip Cover
*Optional quick detach transport system or casters available for 1x12, casters for 2x10 - See Hardware & Acces. on Pg 6

• 2x10 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (std) or 4 Ohm (*no casters)
• 4x10 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm
• 6x10 • 900 Watts RMS • 4 Ohm (only)
• 8x10 • 1200 Watts RMS • 8 or 4 (standard) Ohm
• 1x12 • 300W RMS • 8 (std) or 4Ω (*no casters)
• 2x12 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (std) or 4 Ohm
• 4x12 • 1200 Watts RMS • 8 or 4 (std) Ohm
• 1x15 • 600 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm
• 2x15 • 1200 Watts RMS • 8 (standard) or 4 Ohm
• PH 1200 • 1200W RMS • 1x15, 4x10 & HF • 8 or 4Ω (std)

The new Traditional cabs appear to be lower wattage in some cases (115 and 210) and have no tweeter.

The black grilled Vintage series has the same specs and street price as Standard Powerhouse series.

Specs are from Page 5 of the 2012 product guide from Mesa (opens a PDF): http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_Info/Product_Guide/2012-ProdRefGuide.pdf

Edit: looks like Mesa has added these to their main site now: http://www.mesaboogie.com/Product_I...erhouseCABS/Trad-PowerhouseCabs-MAIN-2012.htm - sounds like they do have a horn. Wonder why they are less expensive.