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Metal with Flashy Bassists

I don't know if you would consider this, but Toshiya from the japanese band Dir En Grey plays some very interesting lines. I always have a lot of fun covering their songs with my band. It's not blindingly fast, but some of their stuff is pretty unique.

try the studio version instead.


That's the song that made me want to start playing bass, oddly enough (my sister was really into J-rock for a while.)
 
Okay, then may be my friends are wrong or something. But I definitely heard teacher teaching 3-2-1-2-3-2-1...

Actually, I might well be wrong, I'm not really sure.

RTTH? Psssh

Try Rime. That my friend, is pure tendon shredding stuff.

Are you saying Rime is tougher than Run To The Hills? Or is there some Swiss sarcasm I'm having difficulty grasping? :confused:

IMO, Run To The Hills is a 100m sprint at full speed, Rime is like walking 400m. The former is definitely more taxing for my right arm. It could be different for you, though I doubt it.
 
Are you saying Rime is tougher than Run To The Hills? Or is there some Swiss sarcasm I'm having difficulty grasping? :confused:

IMO, Run To The Hills is a 100m sprint at full speed, Rime is like walking 400m. The former is definitely more taxing for my right arm. It could be different for you, though I doubt it.

The "Then, 200 men" and the insturmental parts are as quick as RTTH, and the verses are near as quick. Granted you get a break in the middle, but it's still overall much more demanding than RTTH
 
The "Then, 200 men" and the insturmental parts are as quick as RTTH, and the verses are near as quick. Granted you get a break in the middle, but it's still overall much more demanding than RTTH

The "Then 200 men" part you're talking about has 8th note triplets @ ~160. RTTH has 16th note gallops (1 8th +2 16ths) @ ~170. The tempo's not vastly different. It kinda boils down to, I suppose, what you think of as being quicker. Gallops just "seem" quicker to me than those triplets, esp. because you have that element of playing sixteenth notes (albeit not straight 16ths) at such a high tempo in RTTH that you don't have in ROTAM. In those short bursts, your fingers have to move faster in RTTH than you're ever required in ROTAM.

The 'verses', though, are nowhere near as quick: just gallops @ 115.

And yes that break helps too, you don't have to pump out notes consistently like RTTH. In the end, it's about what you find harder. For me, that would be RTTH.
 
The "Then 200 men" part you're talking about has 8th note triplets @ ~160. RTTH has 16th note gallops (1 8th +2 16ths) @ ~170. The tempo's not vastly different. It kinda boils down to, I suppose, what you think of as being quicker. Gallops just "seem" quicker to me than those triplets, esp. because you have that element of playing sixteenth notes (albeit not straight 16ths) at such a high tempo in RTTH that you don't have in ROTAM. In those short bursts, your fingers have to move faster in RTTH than you're ever required in ROTAM.

The 'verses', though, are nowhere near as quick: just gallops @ 115.

And yes that break helps too, you don't have to pump out notes consistently like RTTH. In the end, it's about what you find harder. For me, that would be RTTH.

Fair enough. Although, IIRC Phanton of the Opera combines Rime's left hand with RTTH's right...
 
Fair enough. Although, IIRC Phanton of the Opera combines Rime's left hand with RTTH's right...

Again the tempo is really, really close for both RTTH and the faster sections of POTO, but the same thing: POTO has 8th note triplets in the faster parts and RTTH has gallops. POTO does feature gallops (4:34-6:19) but these sections are far slower than RTTH. Triplets and gallops may be confused for each other at high tempos.

A similar example of confusion is Bleed by Meshuggah. It features the rhythmic pattern consisting of hertas which are a kind of hybrid rudiment consisting of two 32nds followed by two 16ths (or two 16ths+two 8ths, etc.) I've seen people confuse the pattern of two 32nds followed by a 16th @ 115 bpm with a triplet, but it's not.

Back on the topic: IMO, Stanley Clarke seems pretty flashy too. (I assume that we are talking flashy by way of speed and not gimmicks.) On the topic of gimmicky and flashy, has anybody seen the vid where Billy Sheehan is doing the over & under thing Michael Angelo Batio does? It's from a a clinic Billy did in Japan. I've seen a little clipping of it on a lesson of Billy's. Watch from 0:39 onwards.
 
If by "flashy" you mean not your standard in-the-pocket 100% of the time kinda guy...

Rex Brown - Pantera/Crowbar/Down
Mike Dean - Corrosion of Conformity
Cliff Burton (RIP) - Metallica
Jason Newsted - Metallica/Voivod/Flotsam & Jetsam
Justin Chancellor - Tool
Ryan Martinie - Mudvayne
Dave Ellefson - Megadeth
Billy Sheehan
Les Claypool (about as flashy as it gets)
 
Protest the Hero? Most of you guys probably wouldn't be into them, but some could consider them Metalcore. Arif is a beast.

Arif is definitely a beast. I saw them live 2 years ago, got to meet Arif and Rody. Arif even chilled with us! It was great but it only lasted 20 minutes :rollno: some lame excuse about getting to the next city, manager says we gotta move, yadda yadda yadda
 
If by "flashy" you mean not your standard in-the-pocket 100% of the time kinda guy...

Rex Brown - Pantera/Crowbar/Down
Mike Dean - Corrosion of Conformity
Cliff Burton (RIP) - Metallica
Jason Newsted - Metallica/Voivod/Flotsam & Jetsam
Justin Chancellor - Tool
Ryan Martinie - Mudvayne
Dave Ellefson - Megadeth
Billy Sheehan
Les Claypool (about as flashy as it gets)

I agree with all of those except Mike Dean (don't know him).