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Minimizing Hand Movement

Dr. Cheese

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Mar 3, 2004
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One really fundamental aspect of my playing that has been super hard for me to break is that I am figuring out a song, I just figure out have to play without identifying the notes. That is the result of learning to play without learning the fingerboard. For the past twenty years, I have learned the notes, but when I play I revert back to my original approach, and then I to tell myself what I am playing. This has resulted in my not being economical in my hand movement, and has slowed me down when playing at faster tempos.

In my days of fingerboard ignorance, I would practice scales by learning the fingerboard diagrams instead of learning the notes, but it did help me recognize scales used for bass lines when learning songs. I have slacked off of that. Now, of course, I learn the names of notes in scales too.

The bottom line is my teacher saw a video of me playing Expansions and stated that my goal was simply to build endurance for songs with faster tempos. He learned the song, realized it was C pentatonic, told just play it in one position. Playing it in one position with a lighter touch definitely reduced hand forearm fatigue noticeably.
 
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Nice playing, cool right hand use by the way.
On your plucking hand just try and keep your fingers close to the fretboard....the further away you move them away the further back they have to travel to reach it. For me that is all i would offer at this stage, if you work on minimizing that "movement" you should see some smoother results in your playing over time.
 
Nice playing, cool right hand use by the way.
On your plucking hand just try and keep your fingers close to the fretboard....the further away you move them away the further back they have to travel to reach it. For me that is all i would offer at this stage, if you work on minimizing that "movement" you should see some smoother results in your playing over time.

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This is spot on advice (bit I think the bolded bit should say stopping not plucking). Your left hand fingers are flying around inches from the fingerboard and your hand is wide open all of the time. The energy required to sustain that constant movement and stance and hit the fingerboard as hard as you appear to do looks enough to cause more fatigue than stopping the notes. I also think it is impacting your left/right synchronisation - the attack of some notes sounds muted because you are plucking just before the string is fully stopped i.e. your left hand finger seems to be arriving late. Reducing the left hand finger movement would help resolve this.
But your right hand attack and the tone you get from it sounds really funky. I think the overall groove moves along really well but is marred a bit by those muted attacks... This is good work - you and your Pedulla have come a long way...
 
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Nice playing, cool right hand use by the way.
On your plucking hand just try and keep your fingers close to the fretboard....the further away you move them away the further back they have to travel to reach it. For me that is all i would offer at this stage, if you work on minimizing that "movement" you should see some smoother results in your playing over time.

I really am working on keeping my fingers closer. Breaking old habits is hard!
 
@Dr. Cheese
This is spot on advice (bit I think the bolded bit should say stopping not plucking). Your left hand fingers are flying around inches from the fingerboard and your hand is wide open all of the time. The energy required to sustain that constant movement and stance and hit the fingerboard as hard as you appear to do looks enough to cause more fatigue than stopping the notes. I also think it is impacting your left/right synchronisation - the attack of some notes sounds muted because you are plucking just before the string is fully stopped i.e. your left hand finger seems to be arriving late. Reducing the left hand finger movement would help resolve this.
But your right hand attack and the tone you get from it sounds really funky. I think the overall groove moves along really well but is marred a bit by those muted attacks... This is good work - you and your Pedulla have come a long way...

I really appreciate the analysis!
 
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I like you you anchor your thumb behind the neck and let your hand swing like a pendulum shifting to let the index get the low note and moving your hand to let the pinky get the high note. I sort of cringe when I see people keep that fretting hand still and do that wide finger spread to grab all the notes like they are a classical guitarist.
 
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