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Mixing help

Cymbals are really loud, and the drum sound doesn't seem very full.

I thought the vocalizing ("da-da-dum-da-da-da-da") seemed kinda out of place.

Nice work keeping the guitarist from burying the bass, though. And the harmonizing by the backup vocals is really good.
 
Thanks! The da-da-dat-da-da-da-da bit is what the singer/guitarist originally envisioned as the bassline (this is before I joined the band), and she played the song and sang that bit to show off what the bass should sound like. Someone told her it sounded good and so thats the reason why its in there vocally.

:eyebrow: <- my face when told I HAD to play the riff, but I try and keep it to a minimum (it doesn't flow well at all, and if I had wanted to play basslines other people wrote I would be in a cover band).
 
if you can re-record the drums I would, they sound really boxy and muffled and I dont think slamming them with a comp and leveling it up will help (thats plan B) Also the mix of the drums was awkward the dingy cymbal at the top barely being hit vs the muffled snare....

the guitar mixed hard to one side didn't work for me I would bring a little more balance there

the bass was too woofy and thick at times, eq down the 100hz zone to brign in some clarity, also bring in some of the upper mids on the bass, those nice melodic lines need to come out a bit more. This song could really benefit from more movement by the bass

there is a a bit of a disconnect from the boxy sound of the drums the overly rounded bass, the overdriven guitar and the vocals, it needs to gel better

if the vocals weren't so spirited I would say recut the whole thing up a few bpm, there were a few voice timing and intonation issues, but I thought they were minor relative to the honesty of the performance

if you do recut it, get your drum sound down before moving on.

What is your recording chain? converters,,pres, mics etc?
 
the bass was too woofy and thick at times, eq down the 100hz zone to brign in some clarity, also bring in some of the upper mids on the bass, those nice melodic lines need to come out a bit more. This song could really benefit from more movement by the bass

I over-compensated with the low end when we recorded the bass. What generally happens when the drummer mixes everything is the bass gets completely lost in the mix and is barely audible. Which sections of the song need more movement?

there is a a bit of a disconnect from the boxy sound of the drums the overly rounded bass, the overdriven guitar and the vocals, it needs to gel better

Mixing-wise or performance-wise? It is a really rough mix right now, so some of the issues might be sorted out through further mixing.

if the vocals weren't so spirited I would say recut the whole thing up a few bpm, there were a few voice timing and intonation issues, but I thought they were minor relative to the honesty of the performance

Playing this live we usually do play it a bit faster than it was recorded. It seems to be a recurring problem when we record something, someone (guitarist/singer) always gets us to play it slower than normal (its sometimes decided when I'm not around, seeing as the other 2 are in a relationship together).

if you do recut it, get your drum sound down before moving on.

Funny you should mention that. It took the drummer quite a long time to record the drums, and the sound of the drums now is how he thought they should sound.

What is your recording chain? converters,,pres, mics etc?

Not terribly sure on this one. Most of the recording was done without me there (I was only around for the bass, which was my bass plugged into a DI box). The reason for that is we are recording at the drummers house, and because the guitarist/singer and drummer are in a relationship they record whenever they get around to it. Not an ideal situation for me.
 
too much low end is a clarity killer for any instrument, also, there are plenty of good engineers that are drummers too, Tim Alexander comes to mind, amazing engineer, former drummer for Primus and Blue Man Group

as far as the bass movement goes, the bass has a nice feel and the note selection fits rhythmically and melodically, I think its the supporting part under the da da da da da's that got me

the tempo variations between live and studio are the drummers responsibility

Studio work is a painting, you can tweak it until its right, but its helps to start out with the best foundation