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modern classical: recomendations?

Discussion in 'Recordings [DB]' started by velvetkevorkian, Jan 2, 2006.


  1. i made my dad a cd of modern(ish) stuff i quite like, which i've yet to have any feedback on, but i'm already thinking of vol.2, as well as stuff i need to get. on the first cd i put: steve reich- 6 pianos; some bits from the rite of spring; berg's violin concerto, 1st movt.; gorecki's 3rd symphony, 1st movt.; the finale from philip glass' 2nd symphony; "swans migrating" from rautavaraa's cantus arcticus, and a john cage prepared piano sonata. anyway, to the point- what else could you recommend in this vein? i like symphonic/orchestral stuff a lot more than anything chamber-ish, but any suggestions as to what i can subject my old man to next would be appreciated :)
    cheers!
    kyle
     
  2. Peter Ferretti

    Peter Ferretti Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2005
    NYC
    Adagio for Strings- Samuel Barber

    Symphony No. 2- Howard Hanson, this may be my favorite symphonic Piece of all time, it also happend to written for Interlochen.

    Appalachain Spring by Aaron Copeland. I love this one as well, it flows so well.

    Cello Concerto-Korngold. This is an amazing Cello Concerto that is so complex it's scary. Hell of an orchestral part as well.

    Overture to the School of Scandel- Samuel Barber

    Symphony No. 2-Sibelius

    The Planets-Holst

    Symphony No. 8- Dvorak


    This is a start. The New Music Genre is so vast and so amazing its hard to keep up. Hope this helps.

    EDIT:: How on earth could I forget Stravinsky. Man, was I high? Rite of spring is a start though.

    Adams-Nixon in china, more specifically the Chairman Dances.

    Shostakovitch-ANYTHING. I love Symphony's 5,6,9,12. 6 Is my favorite, followed by 5. This is Kind of new music, but its amazing nonetheless.
     
  3. I definitely recommend anything by Barber. There's a CD with the St. Louis Symphony that has a lot of his chamber and orchestral works.

    It's also impossible to ignore Stravinsky in the 20th century era. I see you've already got some of Rite of Spring on there, but the Firebird suite and Petrushka are really cool too.

    Bartok is an interesting exploration.

    Short Ride in a Fast Machine by John Adams is also pretty cool. I haven't listened to a lot of his other compositions, but I particularly like this one.

    If you're looking for something really modern, I'll plug a recording of a piece my orchestra (Chicago Youth Symphony Orchestra) did this November. It's called "Metropolitan" by Jonathan Newman. It won an award last year from the American Composers Organization, and we performed the world premiere.

    Here's a link to the recording:

    http://www.jonathannewman.com/media/Metropolitan_CYSO.mp3

    It's pretty groovy. :cool:

    Scott
     
  4. Allan Santos

    Allan Santos

    Dec 17, 2005
    It looks like you put together a very broad sample for your pops on vol.1. If you wanna stick with orchestral works try out some of these:


    Ligeti's Atmospheres or Lontano

    Any of the Sibelius symphonies

    The Dutilleux Cello Concerto, though any of his orchestral works are fine works and fascinating listening.

    Shoenberg's piano concerto

    Something by Bernstein maybe. He wrote lots of good music in many different styles.

    For something that is really dense and a hard nut to crack but rewarding to try to understand would be something by Elliott Carter. Maybe the Piano Concerto or Clarinet Concerto or Concerto for orchestra.

    Allan
     
  5. oliebrice

    oliebrice

    Apr 7, 2003
    London, UK
    Personally i really love Webern's variations for Orchestra
     
  6. kraid

    kraid

    Apr 11, 2003
    Check out some awesome modern double bass pieces!

    Nino Rota - Divertimento for double bass and orchestra
    Eduard Tubin - Concerto for double bass and orchestra
    Einojuhani Rautavaara - "Angel Of Dusk" Concerto for double bass and orchestra
    Hans Werner Henze - Concerto for double bass and orchestra & 9 Agosto Ore 1207 for solo double bass
    Iannis Xenakis - Theraps for solo double bass & Roscobeck for cello and double bass
    Behzad Ranjbaran - "Dance Of Life" for violin and double bass
    Alfred Schnittke - Hymn No.2 for cello and double bass
    Christian Wolff - Look She Said for solo double bass & Jaspers for violin and double bass
    Emil Tabakov - Motivs for solo double bass

    That's just off the top of my head. There's so many more that I could list if I went through my CDs. I also highly recommend the three volumes of Bjørn Ianke's modern double bass CDs and the pieces on them. Tons of great stuff on those discs.
     
  7. Skywalker22

    Skywalker22 Guest

    I would suggest looking into the works of George Crumb, Penderecki, John Adams, and other contemporary composers. Crumb's Ancient Voices of Children is a true masterpiece. Penderecki's St Luke Passion and John Adams' Transmigration of Souls are truly great works. If you like large ensembles then check out Crumb's Star-child. It is for four orchestras. Very cool stuff.
     
  8. thats excellent, thanks guys! that will hopefully keep me going for a wee while. :)
     
  9. Mendry37

    Mendry37

    Oct 19, 2004
    Albany, New York
    Good selections Skywalker. When are you going to post some pics of your new Schnitzer & de Sola Testore-style bass?
    Chad
     
  10. Velvet, don't forget oor ain wee laddie, James McMillan!

    And how about Orkney Wedding by Peter Maxwell Davis?

    Although not Scottish (not everybody can be so lucky :) ),Michael Tippet's Double String Concerto is a pretty accessible piece too.
     
  11. Man, any of Hindemiths solo sonatas. He has written a bunch of them, I prefer his work for French Horn and Flute.
     
  12. Anonymous75966

    Anonymous75966

    Jun 29, 2004
    if you like that gorecki / rautavaraa thing y'ought check out

    gavin bryars:
    - string quartets
    - by the vaar (a bass concerto ... written for charlie haden!)
     
  13. HaVIC5

    HaVIC5

    Aug 22, 2003
    Brooklyn, NYC
    Bartok - Concerto for Orchestra
     
  14. oooooh i never knew bryars wrote a bass concerto. this i must track down. ordered the rautavaraa concerto, the penderecki passion, more gorecki and something else i forgot:ninja: plus whatever i find about town:smug: cheers for the suggestions guys.:)
     
  15. ok, 15 secs on amazon bagged me a copy of "by the vaar", performed by charlie haden- for a fiver! score:)
     
  16. Aaron Saunders

    Aaron Saunders

    Apr 27, 2002
    Ontario
    Er...I thought people tended to cringe when Charlie Haden pulls out the bow? IIRC it was an anti-aphrodisiac for Bruce's ladyfriend according to one of his posts a while back.
     
  17. ach well, the disc also has bryars' cello concerto and something else as well on it (the disc's called "farewell to philosophy" IIRC) and i bloody love his "jesus' blood never failed me yet", so i'd like to hear it anyway. i'll get back to you....:)
     
  18. Since you're getting so many serious suggestions here, I'll just go ahead and be the oddball. Check out BB Wolf by Jon Deak. You can find a very good video recording of Jeff Bradetich playing it on http://shop1.mailordercentral.com/lemurmusic/prodinfo.asp?number=DVD13. Also, check out Failing: A Very Difficult Piece for Solo String Bass by Tom Johnson. You can find a free recording at http://kalvos.org/ra/johns6mf.ram. I think you need RealPlayer to listen to it. Too bad it's just a stream, and you can't download it. I think the performance is of Robert Black, but I have no evidence to prove this, except that I know he recorded it on a CD. Both are extremely good recordings of insane modern pieces from classical roots. Anyway, as strange as they are, check them out. You won't be sorry.
     
  19. Anonymous75966

    Anonymous75966

    Jun 29, 2004
    +1 on 'Failing.' It's one of the great pieces and very funny without being jokey, if you follow me. I think the Robert Black recording on Bang on A Can Vol. 1 is the only one out there.

    Since we're getting into the arena of really dense bass music, I'll throw these out: Iancu Dumitrescu's "Medium II," a solo bass piece written for Fernando Grillo, as well as any of his other chamber music with Grillo performing. It's a bit like Buddhist chant / Scelsi / droney stuff crossed with industrial noise music.

    Grillo is also the player that Xenakis' 'Theraps' was written for, and his own solo album 'Fluvine' is realy good. You won't hear anything like it - guy does more with one open string than you'd think is possible.

    Incidentally I read in Double Bassist a while ago that Gavin Bryars has written another, more 'legit' bass concerto since 'By the vaar.' Actually premiered by Duncan McTier up in your neck of the woods, VK. Don't know if it's been recorded yet.
     
  20. Beto

    Beto

    Aug 1, 2005
    Costa Rica
    John Luther adams

    John Adams (its not the same guy)

    Morton Feldman

    Kile Gann