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Modern Flats: Ernie Ball Cobalts VS Dunlop Flatwounds

Which set of flatwounds is better?

  • Ernie Ball Slinky Flatwounds

    Votes: 39 60.0%
  • Dunlop Flatwound

    Votes: 26 40.0%

  • Total voters
    65
Hello! Nowadays we got two pretty modern sounding sets of flats - Ernie Ball Slinky Flatwounds and Dunlop Flatwounds. Is there anyone who tried both and who can say which one is better? First is pricey but another one won't appear in Russian string shops till July.

I'm looking for a set with a really little tension and punchy bright sound. Thanks!
 
Sub'd. Also trying to find modern, punchy, bright flats. Bought some Cobalts but havent put them on yet. Theres barely anything on the Dunlops online so if these dont do I will problably look into white tapes. But once I do put on the Cobalts Ill share my experience
 
Another modern flat is Sadowsky.
Better than both IMO.

I would place the Sadowsky right in the middle between the La Bella DTF (old-school thump) and the EB Cobalt (bright and round-ish). They have meaty, full-bodied lows (like flats should), but also some rich smooth mids for punch and clarity without being overly too bright. One of my favorites for my P.

Call them "semi-modern", they're traditional flats at heart but with a modern flavor.
 
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I would place the Sadowsky right in the middle between the La Bella DTF (old-school thump) and the EB Cobalt (bright and round-ish). They have meaty, full-bodied lows (like flats should), but also some rich smooth mids for punch and clarity without being overly too bright. One of my favorites for my P.

Call them "semi-modern", they're traditional flats at heart but with a modern flavor.
Nice description.
 
My review of the new Dunlop Flatwound strings!

The above link has a review of the Dunlop flats if you haven't already seen it. I haven't tried them but I am a fan of the EB Cobalt flats. Have them on my Pbass and I have a set that I've switched out a couple times on my Rick. I think they are great. Nice modern sound that's well balanced and punchy. Initially for the first few weeks they have quite a bit of zing, but lose a lot of that. Still nice high end and clarity. The Dunlops are newer and probably a lot of folks haven't tried them yet, and finding someone who has tried both may be a bit tough. I may get them at some point and see how they are, but in the meantime I'll stick with the Cobalts.
 
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I would place the Sadowsky right in the middle between the La Bella DTF (old-school thump) and the EB Cobalt (bright and round-ish). They have meaty, full-bodied lows (like flats should), but also some rich smooth mids for punch and clarity without being overly too bright. One of my favorites for my P.

Call them "semi-modern", they're traditional flats at heart but with a modern flavor.

I'd be glad to try those but there is small problem - they never appear on Russian music market and there is no way to order them without spending billions of dollars)
 
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So I played a few gigs with Ernies Cobalt flatwounds and all I want to say is - Wow! They have that sticky feeling like Ernie Ball Slinky's (kinda like LaBella flats) but their sound is just great. It can be described as kinda "Music Man-ish", since my bass now sounds a little bit more like old-school stingray)

Still they have that old-school thump but what is even more important - I just loove slapping and popping on them! I set 45-105 set really low and can't be any happier)
Also - they don't lose their clarity like other flatwounds that I used (DR Legends, Chromes, LaBellas).

My strongest recommendations!
 
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Update: it's second month of me using Cobalts - a lot of windings covered with rust (never seen corrosion on strings before). I was offered to exchange the strings - and I'll use this opportunity - but you should take it into consideration before buying a set. They still sound very nice, but rust... Meh
 
Just for the record, I have played both of these strings. I used the Cobalts (45-100 set) about a year ago. I liked the sound a lot, but gave up on them after a month or two because I found them still too "grabby" and rough-feeling. I have had the Dunlops (45-105) on my bass (a humble Squier Jazz) for about a month now and distinctly prefer them. If, as Michael said above, Sadowsky Black Labels are about halfway between classic Labellas and the Cobalts, I would say that the Dunlops are about halfway between the Sadowskys and Cobalts.

Sound: Dunlops have a bit more brightness and dynamic range than Sadowskys, IME, but a bit less "growl" and more "smooth"-sounding than the Cobalts. They work fine in my current hard rock band, allowing quite a range of tones, from Labella-like thump with tone rolled off to quite bright, almost Cobalt-like spank with the tone full on. Overall, I would describe the sound as "smoothly punchy" for flats, more versatile and more "musical" sounding than other alternatives, like Chromes and Fenders. Also pretty well balanced as they break in. G string is still a bit brighter after a month, but not impossibly so, and E is not too woofy.

Tension/stiffness: The Dunlops look and feel distinctly more like traditional flatwounds. I would say they are slightly stiffer and slightly higher tension than the equivalent Cobalts, but nothing too extreme.

Touch: Dunlops are very much smoother to the touch than Cobalts. Not not quite the glassy slickness of Labellas or Sadowskys, but much closer to that than to the relatively rough-feeling Cobalts.

In sum, I would recommend these strings for anyone who wants some of the punch and dynamics of the Cobalts but also wants a bit more of the smooth feel of Labellas and Sadowskys. Hope this helps.
 
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Touch: Dunlops are very much smoother to the touch than Cobalts. Not not quite the glassy slickness of Labellas or Sadowskys, but much closer to that than to the relatively rough-feeling Cobalts.

In sum, I would recommend these strings for anyone who wants some of the punch and dynamics of the Cobalts but also wants a bit more of the smooth feel of Labellas and Sadowskys. Hope this helps.

Played Cobalts since June - and I have to notice that "sticky" feeling of EB strings gone after 2-3 weeks of playing. Just sayin')
 
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Played Cobalts since June - and I have to notice that "sticky" feeling of EB strings gone after 2-3 weeks of playing. Just sayin')
Glad to hear it! They are certainly great-sounding strings. I think the "grabbiness" factor also depends a bit on the skin-type of the player. Some of us have drier/moister skin-types than others.
 
Update: it's second month of me using Cobalts - a lot of windings covered with rust (never seen corrosion on strings before). I was offered to exchange the strings - and I'll use this opportunity - but you should take it into consideration before buying a set. They still sound very nice, but rust... Meh

I have used Cobalts on some of my basses since they came out and have never had an issue with rust on them. Had to of been bad conditions for them or a bad set in general. They have been my go to string of choice and not one issue with rust or breaking like other have seen. I have probably had a total of 10-12 sets of them and nothing.
 
Is this because you have that many basses you use them on? Or, are these flats not as long-lasting as the traditional flats?

I've never had a set wear out or loose the original tone that they start with even after months of playing. I do have a set either on every bass I own or at least a set ready to go on one. I have traded and sold several basses also that had these as the main string. I've never owned a bass that didn't sound good with these strings and that is why they are my go to string.
 
Revival of a dead thread but I will have to weigh on Cobalt flats being the best flats in the market for me imo. I have bought 3 sets (1 being an accident cause I had forgotten that I had a brand new set saved for over 2 years in my room lol) and has been on my cheap Warmoth PJ bass for 4 years and counting!

I like to trick my students and friends to guess if I was playing rounds or flats on my bass and to find out they were flats literally had me pick up there jaws off the floor!!
 
If "modern" is "closer to rounds" i would choose half-rounds instead of flats.
All flats eventually break in and become dark forever (which is cool if you like it).

Since you live in Russia and flats are expensive and not much around,
i assume you are going to stay with the same set for years,
so you probably need half-rounds for a longer brighter tone.
 
Second revival! Have both and switched them back and forth on the same PJ into the same TCE amp and here's my take:
EB Cobalts a bit more loose feeling, gobs of presence and nice zing for flats. Easy to dial in for thump.

Dunlop SS flats a little tighter, you'll need to eq a bit to get the snap of EB's, but, oh, that bottom really brings the thunder.
 
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