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Monster SP1000 Speakon Cable

Hi everyone. I've searched the forums hoping to come up with a straight answer, I didnt see any. There was a thread regarding the SP1000, but it got lost in the conversations of buying other or DIY speakon cables.

I have a GK 700rb with 410RBH & 115RBH cabs...

Is an SP1000 a 4 conductor cable? I've seen current deals goin on with the Fusion 550's getting free SP1000s but just to make it absolutely sure that I'm gonna get what I paid for, I'm asking for help. Thanks!
 
just to make it absolutely sure that I'm gonna get what I paid for, I'm asking for help. Thanks!
With Monster you won't, as it's three to four times the price it should be. If you haven't ordered it yet, don't.

As for Speakon cables, you really should make your own. The price is right, and all you need to assemble them is a utility knife and screwdriver.
 
Would you suggest any websites or can I look around local stores here in Los Angeles? Any suggestions?

It sounds really simple but I think it'd be best if i look for that thread again that gave a knucklehead instruction for doing it lol :D

I'm not quite the handyman and if there's any tips you could add on for things to look out for if ever I decide to do it, I'd sure appreciate it...
 
Just got home and bought the 14 gauge + 4 NL4FXs...

It's my first time doing this, I'll be looking at this instruction sheet but if someone can help me with my main question I'd sure appreciate it...

the cable's got 4 wires...

White - Green - Black - Red

No Idea which one is which... What is +1, -1, +2 and -2?


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:hyper: All I could say is WOW. :hyper:

I thought my ears were the problem as to why I couldnt dial in a decent sound...

It was my Monster 1/4s.

Despite my lack of electrical knowledge, I was able to make the speakon work thanks to you guys! I think I'll be Sansamp 3 prog driver out of my chain. That's how much I love the GK tone! It's not hard at all to come up with a good sound when you have the speakon harnessing the bi-amp capabilities. I'm not sure what was missing when i have my quarter inches hooked to it but the sound is just A+!

Fender Am. Dlx Jazz Bass - 700RB mkii - 410RBH - 115RBH

Thanks again! :hyper:
 
Speakon Explained:

Common late model amplifiers and speaker cabinets are equipped with “Speakon” connectors. Typically one of two types of “Speakon” panel jacks are used on these newer amplifiers and speaker cabinets:

1) NL2MP
2) NL4MP

NL2 connectors explained:

The NL2MP panel jack is much less common than the NL4 type of panel jacks. The NL2 and NL4 panel jacks can look very similar. The NL2MP is a male gender panel jack with only two contacts in the jack. Genuine Neutrik NL2MP jacks are identified with white lettering with the model number “NL2” as shown here:


Only Speakon NL2FC cord-ends will function with NL2MP panel jacks. If your equipment is equipped with NL2 panel jacks then your cord must be equipped with NL2 cord ends since NL4 cord ends will not insert into NL2 panel jacks. Genuine Neutrik NL2FC cord ends are identified by the white printing stating “NL2FC” on the grey release ring as shown here:

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The NL2FC is a female gender cord-end and just like the NL2MP jack, is equipped with only two contact points. The NL2FC cord-end will insert into a NL4MP panel jack, and will pass signal on the two 1+ and 1- contact points. The NL4FC end will not insert into a NL2MP panel jack.

NL4 connectors explained:

The NL4 type panel jacks look very similar to the NL2 type panel jack. Also, the NL4 type cord-ends look very similar to the NL2 type cord-end. It is easy to mistake one for the other. The genuine Neutrik NL4 panel jack is not as easy to positively identify as the NL2 panel jacks. There is a variety of common NL4 type panels jacks, which are:

1) NL4MP: small square mounting flange style with solder or spade connector termination points
2) NL4MP-ST: small square mounting flange style with set-screw termination points
3) NL4MPR: large round mounting flange style with solder or spade connection termination points

The common NL4 type panel jacks are shown here:

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The following inscriptions are located on the surface of the genuine Neutrik NL4 panel jacks:

1) Neutrik: This is raised lettering located on the surface of the inner-most ring. Note: the NL2 panel jack is also labeled in this same exact manner.
2) Liechtenstein: This is embossed in the lower left corner of the panel jack. Note: the NL2 panel jack is also labeled in this same exact manner.
3) The NL4 panel jack has no other front surface lettering except the Neutrik logo in the upper right hand corner. If the Speakon panel jack is black in color, and IS NOT labeled with the white NL2 label, then it’s most likely an NL4 panel jack. If in-doubt, check your owner’s manual or contact the manufacture.

In my experience, most modern amplifiers and speaker cabinets which are equipped with Speakon jacks, are equipped with the NL4 type Speakon jacks. The NL4 type Speakon jacks are equipped with 4 (four) ea. contact points, as opposed to the NL2 type Speakon jacks which are only equipped with 2 contact points. The NL4 type Speakon connector is capable of passing 2 different speaker signals; where-as the NL2 type Speakon connector is only capable of passing 1 single speaker’s signal. Many of the NL4 panel jacks mounted on modern amplifiers and speaker cabinets only utilize 2 of the 4 contact points. I believe the NL4 jacks are used because the cost is similar to the NL2 jacks, and the NL4 jack will accept either the NL2 or NL4 cord-ends.

The contact points on the NL4 connectors are labeled on the connector in various locations depending on the model of the NL4 connector, and can be difficult to read because the labeling is fairly small, and could be partially obscured by set-screws, but the labeling is as follows:

1) 1+
2) 1-
3) 2+
4) 2-

If the amplifier or speaker cabinet is equipped with NL4 jacks, and if only 2 of the 4 contact points are being used, generally it’s Pins 1+ and 1-. HOWEVER: This is not how all are wired. There is no “standard” for wiring NL4 connectors, although some configurations are more common than others. If the panel jack in the amplifier is wired for bridge/mono output, it’s possible that Pins 1+ and 2+ are being used. Many amplifiers have one (or more) of the Speakon jacks wired with both channels of the amplifier wired to the jack, which is generally intended for bi-amping purposes. If this is the case, channel 1 of the amplifier might be wired to pins 1+ and 1- of the jack, and channel 2 of the amplifier might be wired to pins 2+ and 2- of the jack. In virtually all cases, NL2 Speakon connectors are all wired the same; however, NL4 Speakon connectors could be wired in any of one of 16 (sixteen) different configurations on either the amplifier or the speaker cabinet. Just guessing what the wiring scheme would result in a 1 (one) in 256 (two hundred fifty six) chance of the amplifier wiring matching the speaker wiring.

If your amplifier and speaker cabinet are equipped with NL2 type Speakon jacks, then you will need an NL2 type speaker cable to hook them up. Generally all NL2 Speakon jacks and NL2 Speakon cable are wired the same and fully compatible.

If either your amplifier or speaker cabinet are equipped with NL4 type Speakon jacks, it's naive to assume the wiring scheme. To construct a proper cable, the panel jacks must be positively identified as being NL4 type and the pin-out configuration of both the amplifier NL4 jacks and speaker NL4 jacks must be known.
 
Speakon Explained:

...however, NL4 Speakon connectors could be wired in any of one of 16 (sixteen) different configurations on either the amplifier or the speaker cabinet. Just guessing what the wiring scheme would result in a 1 (one) in 256 (two hundred fifty six) chance of the amplifier wiring matching the speaker wiring.

This comment contains unimportant corrections based on fun with combinatorics and probability. ;-)

There are only 12 ways to connect 2 wires to a four pin connector, but there are 24 ways to connect 4 (and hence 36 ways to wire a four pin jack if you allow either a 2 or 4 wire connection).

If you know that your amp uses a 2 wire (or alternatively 4 wire) scheme and that your speaker does too but you don't know which particular scheme either of them uses, then you have a one in 12 (alternatively a one in 24) chance of them being the same, and one in 6 (or one in 12) if you can live with a polarity reversal. (The chances are not 1 in 12 * 12 or 1 in 24 * 24 respectively, because the amp uses one scheme, and we only need the speaker to match that one.)

If you don't even know whether the amp and speaker use 2 or 4 wire schemes then you have a 1 in 36 chance that they're wired the same (1 in 18 if you don't mind polarity reversal as long as both channels in a 4 wire scheme have the same polarity).

So if you have a four core cable wired straight through (i.e. each core is connected to the pin with the same label at both ends), those are your odds of everything working. Unfortunately the better odds than stated above don't help you very much though!

The odds change if you only have a 2 core cable. This will only work if the amp and speaker have two wire connections that are wired to the same pins as the cable (allowing for polarity reversal if you're cool with that). Assuming you at least know that the amp and speaker use 2 wire connections, then out of the 12 ways to wire a 2 core connection to a four pin jack, only 2 of them will connect to the same pair of pins as the cable, so you've got a 1 in 6 chance at the amp end and a 1 in 6 chance at the speaker end of making a connection. That means there's a 1 in 36 chance of a circuit from amp to speaker, and a 1 in 72 chance of getting the polarity right as well.

So, the conclusion from above remains - with four pin jacks you need to know the wiring scheme!