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Double Bass MPM adjuster Full Circle combo

flatback

flatback

May 6, 2004
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#1
I had the titanium adjusters from franz Moser put in a while back and heard that he could fit a FC into the mix. I couldn't picture it but here is one (below). These adjusters actually open the bass up considerably and free the bridge movement. Now combined with a Full Circle, I think it will be a great combo.
thanks to bassist14 for the photo maybe he can tell us if the adjusters work for him and how the FC sounds?
 
#2
hello flatback,

i´ve just read your post and will be happy to write about my good expieriences with moser adjusters+fc. unfortunatly i have too much work the next days, but i will try to answer more next week. ok?

bassist14
 
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Just got word from Franz. Apparently, the MPM's are also made from aluminum and those are the ones that work with the full Circle.this might be a way to get the full benefit of both the FC and MPM's without the expense of the Titanium. (although the Ti rocks) For those of you not familiar with these adjusters and what they can do for your sound...check out
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#4
hello flatback,

ok,i will try to explain my experiences with MPM-adjusters and the fullcircle.

i have MPM adjusters on my meyer-bass since ca. 1 and 1/2 years. these were the first adjusters i ever had on a bass. and the only ones i could ever imagine to use on my main bass. (here in germany adjustable bridges are not very common, even under jazz-bassists i know, not to talk about classical players...)

i use this bass for classical and jazz. the MPM work fine, i couldn´t hear a difference in the sound after i got them installed. (that was the biggest fear i had, using adjusters)

the bass on the photo is a new hungarian instrument.
it´s got the aluminium-MPMs and a fullcircle, that was built into the adjuster from mr.moser (MPM). i think he changed the threads of the fullcircle to his own threads, so that the FC fits very precise whitout any wagging(?, sorry, my english...). if you already have a MPM you know what i mean. the mechanism works like a swiss-watch-clockwork. i have read many posts here about FC-problems and think the perfect fit is a key to good function and sound of it. in combination FC+MPM i think this is not a problem.

i´m sorry, but i can´t compare the sound of MPM+FC to other fullcircles because its the only one i´ve ever played, and the FC is not very common here.

compared to the realist i use on the meyer-bass, i can tell a big difference beetween this and the FC+MPM combination. the MPM+FC sounds much clearer, more articulated, more defined in the lows and low-mids. (both with obligatos and GKMB150E flat EQ) (but both are on different basses, so, who knows what would be if i changed them?)

i have seen in your profile you own a schertler pub280, i have one too. using the MPM+FC with my fishmann platinum pro and the schertler, i can get a really good plug+play sound, for my personal taste.

from my personal experience i would recommend you to try the MPM+FC combo.

i had mail- and phone-contact with mr. moser and talked with him about the aspects of this combination. he was always very friendly and answered quickly. (but i don´t know if he speaks english...)

i hope this will help a little, please feel free to ask further questions.

(PS: today i brought the meyer bass to my luthier to install a single wilson element in the bass-leg of the bridge.curious how this will sound...)
 
#14
hey I am still using the titanium adjusters from frans moser (i have them on a seperate bridge from the FC) and I think they are the best. the bridge vibrates unobstructed and the mechanism is very high tech and well made. i think that people hear adjusters altering the sound when the threads pinch the sides (not installed perfectly straight or more likely the bridge gets hit slightly) these dont do that but are more expensive and complex to install. but never the less a great adjuster.
 
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Yeah I dont think so ....I loved the original adjusters in titanium but I gave up when I got the new bass with two Yamahikos. With the Y's the pick up is IN the shaft (which makes it better ) but I dont think you would want to be shortening it.
When I had the MPM adjusters on my bass and the top half of the bridge was free, it was vary resonant though and I really dug it.
Kristian I still use Mr Moser's adjustable saddle with the titanium rod. Works brilliantly on the Contrabassetto and the moment I put it on there it really equalized the sound, un pinched it and the bass opened up tremendously. I think any small bass with full size fingerboard needs a raised saddle to get the angles and tensions right.
 
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flatback said:
Yeah I dont think so ....I loved the original adjusters in titanium but I gave up when I got the new bass with two Yamahikos. With the Y's the pick up is IN the shaft (which makes it better ) but I dont think you would want to be shortening it.
When I had the MPM adjusters on my bass and the top half of the bridge was free, it was vary resonant though and I really dug it.
Kristian I still use Mr Moser's adjustable saddle with the titanium rod. Works brilliantly on the Contrabassetto and the moment I put it on there it really equalized the sound, un pinched it and the bass opened up tremendously. I think any small bass with full size fingerboard needs a raised saddle to get the angles and tensions right.
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I’ll definitely get the raised saddle. I just found out that he lives less than two hours from me so I’ll go there and see what he suggests for my little Turkish bass. Maybe I’ll go there later with Serena as well!
 
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