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Multitrack Recording

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fruity2x said:
digidesign...thats the other one that runs Pro Tools. and I'm with ya Charling, Pro Tools is the industry standard and dose some cool things. I do understand its an incentive program and what it dose it dose well, but the price points are way too high for my budget anyways. I could be wrong on it but can you get into a 16ch Pro Tools interface for less that even a $1000?

My point is for $300-$400 you can get the Tascam with 16 ins and it comes with Cuebase. I just did a quick Google and couldn't find anything that wasn't over twice the price for 8 ins that would run Pro Tools. For us home recording guys, IMHO, Pro Tools is just kinda over kill and the extra money could go to buying mics and some decent pres.

I was just checking out your place Charling, truly amazing man. I bet you are very proud of it....its beautiful and i bet your live room in studio one sounds like heaven!!!!
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Very good point.... I like to say if you can't cook, it doesn't matter how decked out your kitchen is!...I fixed the above link...again its classical and may not be your taste...but you can hear the system is clean...I am also posting some pix of my current work settup for recording and editing.

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Here are some pix of some of the eqipment...I know the rule no pix no link it does not exist. These will give you an insight on the extent MY on-going frustration!

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This is how it looks 90% of the time....SIGH

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fruity2x said:
digidesign...thats the other one that runs Pro Tools. and I'm with ya Charling, Pro Tools is the industry standard and dose some cool things. I do understand its an incentive program and what it dose it dose well, but the price points are way too high for my budget anyways. I could be wrong on it but can you get into a 16ch Pro Tools interface for less that even a $1000?

My point is for $300-$400 you can get the Tascam with 16 ins and it comes with Cuebase. I just did a quick Google and couldn't find anything that wasn't over twice the price for 8 ins that would run Pro Tools. For us home recording guys, IMHO, Pro Tools is just kinda over kill and the extra money could go to buying mics and some decent pres.
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Yeah, well digidesign actually makes pro tools, and originally it was only digidesign interfaces that would work with there software, then they added M-Audio support and a few other very high end options.

Yeah, fair point about the cost thing. The mbox's ARE cheap but have quite a few less ins (though some are expandable via ADAT, though its more cost of course). The best option for multi-in pro tools would be to get an Maudio DELTA 1010Lt for $200, so thats 10 ins, 10 outs and 2 preamps. I think thats about the biggest cost/features ratio you can get with pro tools! You can daisy chain those though, so you could get a 20 in 20 out system for quite a bit less that $1000.

But yeah, its not as simple or easy as just picking up something like the tascam, with all its preamps etc, and requires quite a bit less thought, setting up and troubleshooting! And as you say, Mics and Pres are more important in the scheme of things!

fruity2x said:
I was just checking out your place Charling, truly amazing man. I bet you are very proud of it....its beautiful and i bet your live room in studio one sounds like heaven!!!!
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Cool man, yeah its pretty damn special! The live room sounds GREAT, best room I've ever recorded in by far. Full of character but controlled enough to be easy to work with. The little Neve (the left hand side of the desk) is pretty special as well! amongst other things.... ;) :hyper:
 
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Hyperfreak said:
Alright, I guess I'll go with the tascam. For Studio recording, Cubase seems far better and more stable than Ableton, so I'll try that, but with the kind of work I do, I'm guessing I'll probably end up mostly in FL.

Good to learn another DAW though, just in case.
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Yeah, always good to learn another DAW! Though Cubase is probably a bit more suited to recording bands, ableton is still very capable and very stable. (after all, it was designed to be used live where you need a program to be rock solid!).

Its worth taking the time to know cubase's midi stuff, the piano roll is a LOT better than the one in FL, it also has separate channels on the mixer for the midi track and the instrument track. So you can have fun with wierd MIDI effects and then add audio plugins to the synth's audio output in the normal way!

You can get those sort of controllers you mention, some of them are very pricey however. Behringer makes a simple little one thats very cheap, though with the usual behringer critiscisms.
 
#27
I don't know if it's been mentioned, but Pro Tools LE is still having some real compatability issues with Windows 7, especially on laptop machines. I banged my head against that particular wall for a couple of months before giving up and going back to XP Pro.

I'm checking out another route, since I have been and will be doing a lot more live recording. Presonus Studio Live 16.4.2 mixer. Digital mixer, 16 tracks in and out. It comes with its own software, Capture, and then the tracks can easily be moved to the DAW of your choice. It also allows some neat stuff like using plugins for live sound from your laptop, and memories of all settings and routing.

http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=52
 
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RDUB said:
I'm checking out another route, since I have been and will be doing a lot more live recording. Presonus Studio Live 16.4.2 mixer. Digital mixer, 16 tracks in and out. It comes with its own software, Capture, and then the tracks can easily be moved to the DAW of your choice. It also allows some neat stuff like using plugins for live sound from your laptop, and memories of all settings and routing.
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If only I had the $1800... I'd be all over that.

Yeah. At the very least, I can switch between electronics-heavy and recorded sound-heavy tracks, and perhaps export electronic parts from FL and open them in Cubase. It'll certainly save on system resources, and I can take note of things to fix in the electronic tracks where necessary and fix them with a re-render once in a while or something. Though it's going to take a long time to get over the kind of bias I have for FL studio.
 

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