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Music Degree

Hello Fellow Low Lifes :D

Just taking a survey. Many years ago I was a college student and newbie bass player. I was a biology major and was interested in minoring in music but decided that chemistry would be better for my career. Fast forward forty years and I am a more accomplished bass player and retired from a career in medical sales. I have always wanted to pursue that formal music education and said to myself, what the hell, contact your alma mater and inquire. So, long story short, on January 19 I start my quest for a Bachelors Degree in Music with a concentration in Music Theory. The reaction from friends and family are mostly indifferent to negative. I get comments about it being a waste of time and quite a few people asked the ridiculous question “What are you going to do with that degree?”

Not that it matters what anybody says because I’m doing this no matter what but I thought that I would ask my kindred spirits at TB what you all think about this adventure that I’m about to set off on? Way cool or crazy dumb?

What part of "retired from a career in medical sales" are they not processing? You have already earned a degree. Worked in a career and apparently built up enough of a nest egg to retire. You aren't trying to earn a degree that will allow you to raise and support a family. You've been there and done that. You are now trying to folow your dream in retirement.
 
Congrats - I think it 's great!

I'm the only member of my family (parents, 2 siblings) that doesn't have a major in music (or college degree).
I refused to take piano lessons from my mother as a child.
I was a promising upright player until I made the (teenage) decision it wasn't "cool"...
Now, I've done pretty well for myself despite those regrettable decisions, and with retirement now in sight, I've considered formal study might be something I'd like to pursue.
I personally couldn't commit to pursuing degree, but am nothing short of envious of anyone that would.
 
Hello Fellow Low Lifes :D

Just taking a survey. Many years ago I was a college student and newbie bass player. I was a biology major and was interested in minoring in music but decided that chemistry would be better for my career. Fast forward forty years and I am a more accomplished bass player and retired from a career in medical sales. I have always wanted to pursue that formal music education and said to myself, what the hell, contact your alma mater and inquire. So, long story short, on January 19 I start my quest for a Bachelors Degree in Music with a concentration in Music Theory. The reaction from friends and family are mostly indifferent to negative. I get comments about it being a waste of time and quite a few people asked the ridiculous question “What are you going to do with that degree?”

Not that it matters what anybody says because I’m doing this no matter what but I thought that I would ask my kindred spirits at TB what you all think about this adventure that I’m about to set off on? Way cool or crazy dumb?

Education is never a bad idea.

I was a music education major back in the day. After a few years I started to grow burned out with school in general and disinterested in teaching, but rather than finishing my degree anyway or switching majors I saw an opportunity to "run away" to OH with my GF at the time, who was starting grad school. I had intentions on entering the jazz program at her new school (CCM, Cincinnati) but life started to "happen" and I never got around to it.

I greatly regret not finishing school and, while you already have a degree and an accomplished career in another field, I think you'd likely regret not pursuing something you are passionate about and have the means to accomplish.
 
I could care less about the degree, but I would certainly love to take the classes. Go for it.
That would be my attitude too. If you already have a degree in anything, then it already ticks the box for most employers who care. It means you've taken all of the core courses already.

Some universities have options such as "senior auditor" that are designed for this specific situation.

A relative of mine took a bunch of computer science courses at a state university satellite campus. When it came time to discuss the degree requirements with her advisor, it turned out her transcript was out of date, and she had to take a bunch of classes like freshman composition and psychology. Plus she already had a masters degree. So she finished out the computer science requirements and walked.
 
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I will post about myself and my experience, because it's what I know best.

I truly support you OP.

Personally, I have a B.Mus focus on violin performance, and another diploma, Associate of the Royal Conservatory of Music focus on violin performance.

I had nothing but support and interest from everybody, but then it's a family of musicians and artists and supportive types.

Regardless, I would have done them even if everybody thought it was a joke.

It was VERY hard work, and I came away with ridiculous knowledge and abilities that I never before, well, never knew that I didn't know. ya know?

It transfers to bass and other instruments and allowed me to become a music transcriber (which I still do in my bands... guitarist writes a super awesome complex piece of music and wants me to play an instrument with him? Best way for me is to have a chart. if it's a lead sheet then I write out the full melody as well in traditional notation, otherwise it's a jazz style chord chart. I can do it in one listen for the main sketch if it's simple, 2 or 3 listens if it's a semi complex song, several listens of intense focus if it's prog, complex finger style, classical, fusion, etc stuff. But I can do it, and it's very helpful because then anybody can sit down and follow along and play, whether it's the basic chords and rhythms (which would include most serious players regardless if they can read classical notation, because there isn't any in the chord/rhythm charts), or the full lead lines and harmonies (as long as they can read music, which would include any horn players, string players etc).

My playing chops got VERY serious for a number of years, also as a direct result of the training, and competition for a preparation for, getting these degrees.

Also, as a result of all that, I know theory like a mother #@$%&!

This allows me to understand what people are talking about, without having to interject silly questions all the time. Lots of players describe music incorrectly, wrong key for song (key isn't always the first chord of the song), whole tone versus semi tone, notes on teh scale etc... but that doesn't matter so much when you are able to interpolate the correct result from what they are saying and listening to how they are playing... and then you can pick up their songs and follow along much more easily than without that extra layer of knowledge helping you to interpret, translate, and predict what is going on and going to come next.

So for me, all of that has been super rewarding and helpful, invaluable really. I also used to work as a session player quite a bit because I can sight read lots of types of charts, right up to full on classical music with every nuance explained in that language. That gave me a huge boost to get the jobs over other players.
 
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You can study music theory and composition on a college level without necessarily completing a formal degree. But if a degree is what you want, by all means go for it. Hopefully your alma mater won’t require you to do a second baccalaureate core requirement all over again since you already have a degree. Although a friend of mine recently went back for the degree he always wanted as opposed to the one he actually got and was told since 40 years had elapsed since his first that they wanted him to do it all over again. So you never know.

But either way, retaking liberal arts courses does no harm. And it might even be more enjoyable at this stage in your life. I recently retook a second year “philosophy in western civilization” course and enjoyed it very much.

With luck they’ll let you substitute music related courses to fill up the required number of credits and class hours for your degree and not make you redo the general course requirements for a BA if you’ve already taken them.

Luck! :)
 
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Hello Fellow Low Lifes :D

Just taking a survey. Many years ago I was a college student and newbie bass player. I was a biology major and was interested in minoring in music but decided that chemistry would be better for my career. Fast forward forty years and I am a more accomplished bass player and retired from a career in medical sales. I have always wanted to pursue that formal music education and said to myself, what the hell, contact your alma mater and inquire. So, long story short, on January 19 I start my quest for a Bachelors Degree in Music with a concentration in Music Theory. The reaction from friends and family are mostly indifferent to negative. I get comments about it being a waste of time and quite a few people asked the ridiculous question “What are you going to do with that degree?”

Not that it matters what anybody says because I’m doing this no matter what but I thought that I would ask my kindred spirits at TB what you all think about this adventure that I’m about to set off on? Way cool or crazy dumb?

Knowledge is power. Not crazy in the least to go back to school.

What would be crazy IMO would be a degree in music with a childhood education minor so you can you can switch careers to teach band at an elementary school. If I wasn’t already confirmed crazy for that move, I surely would be totally insane before the closing bell of the first day on the job. LOL. Best wishes!
 
First off I wish you the best on your new journey.

I have a music degree. Would I do again? dunno. It was challenging, for me, and in Canada there were only two genres to study, classical or jazz. I like both but don't live and breathe that type of music. I wish there had been a pop/rock school where this type of music was the focus.

Did I learn lots? Yep. I am using the knowledge from 40 years ago today? No, I can't remember the last time I jammed a samba:D. I studied privately at 19 with a well known Bass player and that was way more beneficial and I still use what he taught me.

Not judging or wanting to give advice but just sharing my story.
 
Everything we learn makes us smarter at everything. I'm a graduate from the Fairmont State school of music 1974. I use what I learned in music theory, vocal, and upright bass lessons, every time I grace the stage. Your music studies will make you a better bass player.

Time spent learning something we enjoy can never be a waste of time.
 
I was pursuing a music degree as an adult with a BA in history. I did my audition and was graded out at a level 200 bass player, meaning I was a class ahead of beginner. The chair that accepted me went in sabbatical and a new chair made me audition again by video and said I was actually a 100 level player, putting at the intro level instruction. That annoyed me, but I rolled with it. Everything but the lessons was super easy for me. I was enjoying the process. The "lessons" were another story. The person who was assigned to give me lessons was on tour for more than 2/3 of the semester. Leaving me with a sub from another program. The sub spent my lessons talking about gear and mostly hanging out. Towards the end of the term, I'm in a concert and the department chair says that the songs we are performing are due soon. During my lessons, these songs are never mentioned, so I ask and he gives me list of songs and tells me the deal; I need to prepare 5 songs and transcribe a solo. Not once before I asked halfway through the term was any of this mentioned. I pick my songs and solo and the next lesson, my assigned instructor is back from tour. This so called instructor rips my playing and tells me I picked songs that weren't on the list. I get to my jury and it goes terrible. I learned the solo mostly in home position and they tell me to play it an octave up, which I haven't practiced at all. The chair and my so called instructor rip my playing again and tell me the next term will be a do-over, all but admitting they wasted my time and money. The last thing I remember these charlatans saying to me was that music school isn't for everyone. After some soul searching I decided that I refused to be scammed and learned what I wanted from books at my own pace. I hope it goes better for you than it did for me. I was never going to successfully complete the program once the chair of the department switched.
 
You do you! That's my advice. I have a degree in Music Education (and 7 other degrees including 2 Masters in Education...for which my family thought I was "crazy"). I ended up at the top end of the pay scale when I retired from teaching.

Music Theory will serve you well. Enjoy life and the pursuits to make you happy!