My personal Chorus quest has officially been declared as resolved.
So I don't know what to do with this one now:
;-)
So I don't know what to do with this one now:
;-)
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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal
- Thread starter el murdoque
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To me the Fifteen handles my 2 6-stringers really well! I should qualify that both are pretty bright basses with rounds and Nordstrand Big Single/ Big Split pickups and in fact those are the two basses I’ve been experimenting with the most with the Fifteen, because they are right there and the Fifteen really seems to sweeten them both in a really pleasing way. I would say the feel of the Fifteen is more “bouncy” than the SV, and the drive to me more dynamic with a really nice spread of lower gain range. Definitely a “natural” and amplike drive sound to me, not synthetic- it can get fuzzy at higher gain, but I like those tones and the EQ really works to shape the tightness and feel at high gain. I don’t find it makes the B fart out like some drives can, but I also play both basses in passive so if you are sending it a hefty low boost it may be a different story headroom-wise. I will try to mess around this evening and report back with feeding it a more active and boosted bass signal
Thanks! Yes i'm very pleased as well with my clean tone. That's a big part of why I love the SA Tubedrve so much, it can be very transparent if you want it to be (like i do), but with higher gain settings it's also possible to totally obliterate your tone it in a very cool way. I personally like the triode setting a little better, it retains more of the dynamics and sounds a little smoother to my ears. I think the pentode setting would sound great with a bass with roundwound strings, but I don't have one around at the moment to test it out. I'm totally in love with this pedal, so much that it kicked my BJFE Blueberry Futura off my board for now. Something i'd never thought would happen, ever lol. Would be cool to hear your thoughts about the Tubedrve if you get the chance!
The Horrothia is the best one knob chorus I ever played.
That said, it's among the best chorus pedals in general, I want to say.
The Analogman with deep switch is better for fattening up the synth, but it's impossible to find settings that let you play quiet picking parts AND fatten up the synth at the same time.
The Echo Fix might be the better pedal if you're going for a medium slow 80s style chorus, but I hate 80's style chorus music.
From the first shootout between Horrothia and Echo Fix I'd say both are good, both are not perfect for my personal application and I could live with eiher, but were I to make a choice right now on the spot, I'd keep the Horrothia.
That said, it's among the best chorus pedals in general, I want to say.
The Analogman with deep switch is better for fattening up the synth, but it's impossible to find settings that let you play quiet picking parts AND fatten up the synth at the same time.
The Echo Fix might be the better pedal if you're going for a medium slow 80s style chorus, but I hate 80's style chorus music.
From the first shootout between Horrothia and Echo Fix I'd say both are good, both are not perfect for my personal application and I could live with eiher, but were I to make a choice right now on the spot, I'd keep the Horrothia.
You're not making this easy!
My personal BJFe Blueberry is, according to Björn, a normal version with an added fourth knob - there seems to be some change between that and the ones with the Futura instead of the BOD written on the enclosure. But it IS a great device and something that could chase that off a pedalboard surely is worth looking at!
if I only used IEM & FOH the the fifteen pedal would have been ideal. It was great for that application but didn’t work with my amp.
I tend to use my amp 80% of the time with one DI going from my Mesa head into the mixer and another from the SVT going to mixer. The SVT I found fit both applications and worked well as a general preamp for my amp.
There are some venues we play, which we don’t go to FOH, so I need to rely on my amp to do the job. Other times we play such small venues that it’s IEM & FOH only.
Please don’t be put off by the fifteen, it is a glorious pedal and if I could have afforded both then I would have kept them.
However the SVT just went that extra yard for me for both applications.
I tend to use my amp 80% of the time with one DI going from my Mesa head into the mixer and another from the SVT going to mixer. The SVT I found fit both applications and worked well as a general preamp for my amp.
There are some venues we play, which we don’t go to FOH, so I need to rely on my amp to do the job. Other times we play such small venues that it’s IEM & FOH only.
Please don’t be put off by the fifteen, it is a glorious pedal and if I could have afforded both then I would have kept them.
However the SVT just went that extra yard for me for both applications.
Used mine for one IEM rehearsal and it sounded great through IEM. Playing 80’s style
Interesting! What does the fourth knob do on yours? Mine is labeled 'T' for treble. Fully clockwise sounds the most transparent to my ears, so that's how mine is set. I've found the OG 3 knob BB to sound amazing, but also a little mushy at times. The treble control totally fixed that for me. I've also briefly owned a BJFE Blackberry but I didn't jive with that one. Here's an old pic of both:
Short summary:
My go-to was the "Widening" preset in the Strymon Mobius, but I took that off the board and looked for a dedicated chorus pedal.
I started with the Julia, which is okay, but somewhat sterile.
Then I ordered the AnalogMan Mini Chorus, with deep switch, mix knob and top jacks. That sounds amazing for the synth, but it hisses like a basket of angry snakes.
From there, I bought a few more. Tech21 Bass Boost Chorus, Boss Bass Chorus, Echo Fix Chorus, at least one more I forgot.
I read reviews and listened to demos.
Looking for a pedal that is silent and can do slow pulse with a wide sound, that can, at the same time, fatten up a synth tone and create an ambient warble for picking chords (that's why a hissy chorus is a no-no).
The Echo Fix was the best of the lot, but my issue with that is or was that even at the slowest setting, it's quite fast and I prefer a slower moving sound.
Since it did work for both applications, I decided to keep it and stop pursuing the hunt.
One pedal that was high on my list for the ones to check out was the Horrothia, but these are not easy to come by right now - so when I found one on the second hand market, I bought it even though I said I was done.
The one thing that has me grinding my teeth about the Horrothia is that they chose a green LED for the on/off state. The pulsing one that tells you the speed is white. With the color scheme of the pedal, a purple, a blue or another white one would all have been great choices, but the green does not really integrate itself. But that's a small issue.
My knobs are labeled V / D / B / T.
Björn said that the T knob is a very gentle treble boost. Turn it all the way clockwise and it's taken out of the circuit, making the pedal identical to the three knob version. I run mine fully dimed at all times - and it is indeed a gentle boost.
Sounds exactly like what mine does. This is what Bjorn said about it in an email convo we had years ago. Most of what he's saying is above my pay grade though:
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I messaged Tom today and he said it would work well on bass and he has clients that have got it for bass
have you seen their teeth mkii pedal ? HPF knob on the back and low gain. Sounds amazing on guitar but there’s no demos for bass
I messaged Tom today and he said it would work well on bass and he has clients that have got it for bass
yes, I've seen that and had my sights on it for quite a while - but these are quasi nonexistent.
...that's why I did not hesitate to buy the Type One chorus. I've looked for them for quite a while but none popped up anywhere and it seems Horrothia only sells pedals through their reverb shop which is currently empty and has been for a while - but I can't really go ahead and buy every pedal that interests me new from a shop - this whole endeavor is costly enough as it is, with me buying second hand pedals and selling them again. I'm willing to, let's say, buy a pedal for €215 and then sell it on for €200, although I prefer the other way round.
With new pedals ...
I do have a conscience. When I've bought a ton of gear from Thomann in the recent past, I'll cut myself a little slack and order a pedal if a) it's really interesting and b) I'm really planning on keeping it, should I like it enough.
I don't want to be one of those customers that buy a dozen pedals, only to return 11 or 12, even though they have a free return policy.
In my market, a pedal that is available through stores usually takes a 25-33% hit when you unbox it.
With new pedals ...
I do have a conscience. When I've bought a ton of gear from Thomann in the recent past, I'll cut myself a little slack and order a pedal if a) it's really interesting and b) I'm really planning on keeping it, should I like it enough.
I don't want to be one of those customers that buy a dozen pedals, only to return 11 or 12, even though they have a free return policy.
In my market, a pedal that is available through stores usually takes a 25-33% hit when you unbox it.
I don’t know I how this will work for bass but in an interesting twist, Strmon has an all-analog pedal coming out: Fairfax Class A Output Stage Drive - Strymon
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