My drummer is poo and I don't know what to do?

Where do I start. Well you need a background of the situation. Me, my bro, and best friend started a band about 15 months ago. We had a drummer he never showed up so we converted the keyboard player to drums since he played drums years earlier. He has been a friend for over ten years to all of us. Well, he sucks! I got him lessons, my buddy got him lessons with some of the best drummers in Detroit, free lessons I may add, he never calls the guy or rarely practices what he is being shown. He still has tempo and transition issues. He rarely practices with a metronome and work on his weak areas. We played a gig in October where he completely mentally caved in and blew the show because the mix wasn't perfect like in our basement, in fact he blew every gig. I am a drummer too and try to help him but he thinks I'm bossy. Basically we rehearse every weekend, put a lot of money and time into this, and sacrifice a lot of our personal lives for the band. There are a lot of things we want to do but we always revolve our actions around his inabilities and he is holding us back. To me, he is mantally weak, unorganized and unfocused to where and what he needs to do, fails to correct the same problems from week to week, month to month. And emotionally draining because we constantly need to coddle him and reinforce him. He has invested a lot of money in his kit, and like I said he is a good friend but a bad musicain. If we fired him it would damage our frindship and he would be crushed! I have tried everything to the point where I think he is hopeless, his problems are himself. He wants to start singing and writing when he can't even keep a consistant tempo or get through a gig. I am so torn, part of this whole thing is about frinds and doing something you love with people you like and have a bond with. I feel he is letting us down and it's not fair since we put soooo much into this. I guess we need to decide which is more important, a friendship or a sucessful band. I just cant picture myself telling him it's not going to work out, but in my heart I know it's the best thing for the rest of us. Just wondering what some outside perspectives are, I am just so torn as to what to do? thanks

 

Thanks everyone..sorry for the rant but I know you guys can understand. Well the rest of the band wants to stick by him. So we talked last night and I didn't mention about wanting to kick him out because of obvious reasons. So I said "flat out you need to resolve this tempo issue, It's you responsibility and your letting us down"! He said well I feel your pushing me around. O.K. that's B.S. how can anyone push around the time keeper of the band, if I did (which I don't since I am a drummer too) it shouldn't matter, he needs to keep us in check. So we are both going to take the metronome and find the BPM for each cover we are doing and play as a band with headphones and the metronome untill he finds the pocket, and it will actually show me where the pocket is for these songs since I never been there yet, and hopefuly solve this problem! I told him also to work only on basics and tempo and transitions and to keep thing in perspective. We need to have a consistant tempo period! Wish me luck and I will keep you guys posted and thats for letting me vent and you advice.

 

A good band member of any kind can't be so selfish. You have to surrender to the music. [/B][/QUOTE]

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That's beautiful Rick!

 

They think he will be fine in time, my gut is telling me friendships aside he can't hack it. If he gets to the point where he can pass we will never meet our full potential as a band with him I feel. Theres 3 other guys, if 2 say stick by him I have to back it. They are very serious BD5151, this guy grew up with rap and techno (no real instruments at all) as his influences. I feel it has stunted his drumming since he never studied a human being. There is just so much going against him. I feel we are making a mistake. I'm in this for the longhaul as a musicain it's not about just this band. It's a learning process and my first band, if it fails so be it, I'll move on...thanks

 

He came over last night and worked on a song. Man he is far away from being there. I just can't get the other guys to see. I think eventually it will come to a head. Unfortunately the only thing I can say is "I told you idiots" at that point! Thanks for your support and sympathy.