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NAD: Ampeg BA112 v2

Apr 11, 2005
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Plymouth NC
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Endorsing: Yamaha, Ampeg, Line 6, EMG
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I was getting ready to leave for my gig at 3:05 today and had just finished putting on my shoes. I hear a knock at the door. I look outside, and there's this box. I open it, and there's a brand new Ampeg BA112 v2 inside. I had ordered one last week but our AR guy said they hadn't come in yet. I guess they came in now, though! I hurry up and take my old BA110 out of the van and put this one in and head to my gig. Didn't even have time to quickly plug it in and make sure it worked, but the room we played has a nice PA so it was casual. Didn't get much time to play with it before the gig, either, but I got a sound within seconds and it rocked all night with very little tweaking.

If you're familiar with the old BA112, then you know what the new BA112 sounds like already...it sounds like Ampeg. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. They just beefed it up a tad, going from 50 to 75w. It's more of a headroom gain than a volume gain, but it does hold together a little better at higher volumes. They did ditch the "Style" switch, but let's be honest here...nobody ever sets it on any other setting except flat, so who needs it? If you want mid scoop badly enough, just scoop the mids and turn up bass and treble. Another improvement they made is the Ampeg logo on the front panel lights up purple now...how cool is that?!

The tilt-back is a 60 degree angle like most vocal monitors, and it's much sturdier than the tilt-back in the BA110 and BA108 v1 amps I've been using for a couple years. Having more tilt-back is great, especially if you stand close to your amp. On my gig tonight, it was behind me and I stood kind of far away from it, and I was afraid the highs and upper mids might shoot over my head, but I didn't notice any major discrepancies from when I got closer and stood with the speaker pointed at my head. I'll probably have more of an opinion about that after I spend more time with it, but I was happy with the level of tilt.

Didn't get to spend much time with the Scrambler, but it's fun. The Scrambler logo lights up bright green when you turn it on, too. It won't have you selling your fancy pants booteek overdrive pedal but it's kind of functional and has a blend knob. Personally, I liked the overdrive you get from cranking the volume up better. I don't know what the speaker's rated to handle, but I briefly turned it up all the way and played lightly and it's still intact, so that's a good sign. The overdrive sounds better to me when you don't crank volume all the way, but it can get pretty gnarly and still sound good. The different overdrives it produces are something I'll probably have more of an opinion on over the next couple days, too.

Speaking of cranking the volume knob, I noticed one other thing that's different from my V1 BA110 and BA108...with my Precision, my old BA amps start overdriving the power section with the volume at about 11:00, and I'm pretty sure the old BA112 does, too, though it's been a while since I played one and I can't remember for sure. The BA112 v2, however, starts overdriving the power section with the volume at around 2:00, maybe even a little higher. I don't know why the 11:00 breakup bothered so many people when all of Ampeg's classic tube amps with a single volume knob break up at the same point, but that was the biggest complaint I saw about the old BA amps on here. I could be wrong about the BA112 v1 breaking up at 11:00, so if I am, please correct me, but if I'm right, apparently they listened and moved the breakup point further up the dial. Doesn't matter either way to me, though I was surprised at first when I turned it to noon and got a very clean sound.

I briefly did a side-by-side with my BA110 when I got home. The tones are basically the same and the controls work the same, but the BA112 is cleaner and sounds considerably louder and bigger in the lows. Of course, you'd expect that. We do a little gambling cruise once a month where I use the BA110 with no PA, and our band is big with 3 horns and a medium loud drummer. The BA110 holds its own but sometimes I have to push it a bit too hard. With the BA112, I'll be able to coast along quite nicely and have plenty enough to fill out that room without overdriving the power amp. I love overdrive but only when I want it.

So I didn't mean to turn this into a big commercial, only a little one, but I figured some folks would want to know how the new and improved BA112 shakes out compared to the old one, especially since I was able to gig with it right away. Turns out it actually is improved. Tonally it sounds to me like it's very close to the old version, but with the more stable and useful tilt-back, the controls on the front vs. having to reach around the back on the old ones, and the extra kick in the wattage, I'm glad I held out for the new one. It might not be the first choice for a Metallica cover band, but it's a killer little practice/small gig/monitor amp.
 
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I was getting ready to leave for my gig at 3:05 today and had just finished putting on my shoes. I hear a knock at the door. I look outside, and there's this box. I open it, and there's a brand new Ampeg BA112 v2 inside.

Oh man, you have all the fun Jimmy! It looks really nice. Now that you have a Scrambler you can play all those 60's San Francisco acid rock songs. And the box makes a nice amp stand.
 
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What about the cosmetics Jimmy? Did the missing white piping affect your tone adversely? :)
It's missing the white piping? Holy cow, I better get my eyes checked! ;)

CL400, it's your standard CL tolex and grillcloth.

RE the Scrambler, it's not an actual Scrambler. It's a 2-knob overdrive with drive and blend. They just call it a Scrambler because they might as well use a trademark that they own ;)
 
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Just made a cool discovery...if you turn the drive and blend knob on the Scrambler circuit all the way down, it sounds the same as turning it off, so you can have the green Scrambler light on without actually using it. This is good news for folks like me who love colored lights! Only wish I could figure out how to photograph it to where it doesn't wash out, because the colors are pretty vivid in person.
 
Cool, thanks for the review!

I proudly own and gig several of the original series BA combos, good to know the new ones still deliver the goods.



Regarding the missing white piping asthetics, I can't help to wonder if the new BA112 grill is the same dimension as the old version, it sure looks similar from the pictures. If so swapping grills with an older version would be a snap.

Otherwise it really wouldn't be a difficult job to wrap a strip of piping around the grill. I am definitely one of those who appreciates that particular classy Ampeg look.



Good choice on the 112 by the way, truly hits a sweet spot in tone/power/portability IMO.

Out of all my amps my lil BA112 is seeing the most use lately and still brings a smile to my face everytime I hear it sing.

Enjoy your new amp. :)
 
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Despite my 5 year old grandson staying with us for a few days and running me ragged today, I got to spend a little more time with the new amp, and here are a couple small updates.

---Don't know why I didn't notice this before, but there is piping on the grill. Black piping. It's identical to the white stuff, but it's black. I suppose if you really must have the white, you could replace it, but it requires removing the old staples, which is a giant PITA and may require the grillcloth to be re-hung. Pass.

---After getting more time to spend with it, the Scrambler circuit isn't bad at all. It doesn't get that "bees in the background" thing you can get with overdrives that have a clean/dirty blend where it literally sounds like two separate and distinct signals, but actually comes across as a unified whole. I ended up having to mix in clean with the drive when I cranked it hard to get a sound I liked, though. If you make the signal all drive with no clean, it has a tendency to lose a bit of volume in the lows and gain some in the upper mids, so blending in the clean rectifies that. Not an issue for me since I use pedals and had no plans on using the Scrambler on gigs anyway, but for those who were hoping to get a decent mild-to-medium OD tone with it, you'll be happy to know that you actually can.

---I still preferred turning the volume up for distortion, although I doubt I'd ever be able to in my regular band. Even though it's not prohibitively loud for most bands, it probably is for us. Also discovered that turning it up to 3:00 or 3:30 makes it sound as loud and driven as turning it up all the way, so turning it up all the way is kind of a waste. I did it some more today anyway, just to see what would happen, and the speaker took it well even when I played hard and cranked the bass knob a bit.

---Keeping the amp an iron power transformer type instead of going micro with a switchmode power supply was the right thing to do, despite the fact that it would drop a few pounds if it were a micro head. Even with these practice amps, I can tell the difference between it and a comparable micro head. At these low wattages, there's a certain weightiness of tone that I don't think a micro with comparable wattage would deliver, and while I think the Micro CL is a great sounding little micro combo, for some reason the BA112 v2 seems to have a little more authority behind it, at least to my ears. Plus at 42 lbs, I feel it's silly to call the BA112 v2 a "heavyweight." It's still a relatively easy one-hand grab, and despite there being lighter combos out there with much more wattage, you're not going to be able to buy them for $300 new.
 
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I like that they finally made the tilt-back concept useful instead of just something they could include on the spec sheet. I have an original version BA112, and it doesn't really tilt enough to be usable, and the bass of the amp is narrow enough to be somewhat precarious IMO when tilted. To me, this improvement coupled with a little more power and the some tone make this a worthy upgrade.
 
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I like that they finally made the tilt-back concept useful instead of just something they could include on the spec sheet. I have an original version BA112, and it doesn't really tilt enough to be usable, and the bass of the amp is narrow enough to be somewhat precarious IMO when tilted. To me, this improvement coupled with a little more power and the some tone make this a worthy upgrade.
Word. I couldn't agree with you more. There were times I'd have to stick something under my BA110 to get more angle out of it because it was still not tilted back enough. Don't ask me how many times I flipped it by doing that ;)
 
Thanks for the review.

No style knob, finally. I always though that was dumb.

I saw the new Ampeg amps at GC this week. Played through one for a bit and it sounded great. My only complaint is the knobs - they look and feel very cheap. The new Fender Rumbles have cheap looking knobs as well, might be a trend. Anyway, if they are on plastic shafts they may tend to break off over time.

I like how the box says NEW!
 
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Thanks for the review.

No style knob, finally. I always though that was dumb.

I saw the new Ampeg amps at GC this week. Played through one for a bit and it sounded great. My only complaint is the knobs - they look and feel very cheap. The new Fender Rumbles have cheap looking knobs as well, might be a trend. Anyway, if they are on plastic shafts they may tend to break off over time.

I like how the box says NEW!
Just took a knob off and found the shafts are, indeed, plastic. Doesn't bother me, though. I expected cost cutting measures like that in a budget combo...as they say, it is what it is. And I haven't sheared off a shaft on my old BA108 and BA110, and I've dogged them pretty hard for close to 3 years now.

Digging the "New" box, too, BTW.