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Name for this technique?

I’m trying to learn the song “I’m still lovin’ you” by blackie an the rodeo kings. The bassist Johnny Dymond is playing a very simple bassline but I just can’t seem to get the sound/feel. In videos he is using a pick. I’m hearing maybe a hammer on from a full step below? It’s most clear in the introduction. Thanks for any info - especially a name! Cheers, Andy

 
I just can’t seem to get the sound/feel.
The bassist Johnny Dymond is playing the eighth-note (bouncy) groove/feel by accentuating the second eight note (upbeats) and "un-accentuating" (downplaying:drool:) the downbeats - short downbeats and long upbeats.
It's a TRIVIAL/STANDARD feel/pulse requiring to control the note duration - the second eighth note is slightly louder/longer, with more emphasis than the first one.
The bass player is using the pick for that groove by playing those 8th notes (only) as down-strokes - not as downstrokes and upstrokes.
 
Not hearing any hammer-ons in the intro. Just a short note and a long note on the same note. He's playing with a pick, using downstrokes, and picking-hand palm-muting to control note length and tone; possibly some fretting-hand muting as well to assist with the note length control.
 
Staccato-Legato feel.
or
Short-Long feel.

This one is a straight beat (not a swing beat).

It’s about note length, not volume (accents).


Muting can be done by
- lifting the fretting finger off the fretboard slightly
(doesn’t work for open strings).

- using other fretting hand finger(s) to alternately dampen/ undampen the string
eg 1. fret with index, mute with middle +/- ring finger.
eg 2. Fret with middle, mute with ring/pinkie (harder to do).

- plucking hand let the alternate finger land on the string quickly to mute it.

- combination of all three esp for lower notes or B string (more mass = more muting required).

- pick style: I mute more with my fretting hand while playing pick style.
All downstrokes is more tiring but gives more note consistency esp when recording LIVE as a whole band.



Easier to mute with a lighter attack (less string motion) and lighter gauge strings (less mass).

Personally I find it easier to play on flatwounds or old roundwounds as there’s less zing/ high frequencies to worry about muting.
Turning your tone down might help as you’re learning to do this smoothly.
 
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Good choice of a song to work on! As you're figuring it out hear how well John’s bass part supports and compliments the vocal line and lyrics. It has a singing quality without ever getting in the way or letting up on the groove. This is an essential part of what makes him such a great player.
 
I’m trying to learn the song “I’m still lovin’ you” by blackie an the rodeo kings. The bassist Johnny Dymond is playing a very simple bassline but I just can’t seem to get the sound/feel. In videos he is using a pick. I’m hearing maybe a hammer on from a full step below? It’s most clear in the introduction. Thanks for any info - especially a name! Cheers, Andy
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Sounds like you’re on the right track — that kind of feel is often a mix of pick attack and a subtle hammer-on or grace note from below.
Sometimes it’s not even a “named” technique, more about phrasing and timing. A quick slide or ghosted note can also give that same feel.
 

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