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NBD: 2018 Rickenbacker 4003S in midnight blue

ArteK

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Ever since I saw the cover of Deep Purple's Machine Head, I've always obsessed over the Rickenbacker bass. This week I finally got a nice used (2018) 4003s in midnight blue, and I absolutely love it so far.

Originally, I was sure that I wanted a 4003 (with the body binding (and sharp corners)), but I was worried about the ergonomics, based on everything I'd read. Also, I wanted one of the colors other than black and red. I did see a bunch of "burgundyglo" (wine red or maroon) from the 70s and 80s that I thought were beautiful. However, I quickly found that any color other than black or fire engine red (or the various clear coat walnut and maple) was going to double the price, especially on the old "vintage" ones. (I still can't get my head around calling anything from the 70's "vintage".) The burgundyglo Ricks all were running $4-6K, the few midnight blue ones I saw had similar "color premium" pricing.

I recently watched Rockshow (McCartney and Wings during the Wings over America tour), and I've always loved the bass tone Paul got on that record, and I knew it was a Rick. However, I was surprised to see him playing a 4003S, and thought it looked pretty nice. Maybe the body binding wasn't going to be a non-starter.

Then I happened to see this one come across Reverb for about $300 more than the "standard" colors. I thought there were pluses and minuses with the body binding and sharp edges, and they're basically the same bass other than the aesthetics, so I pulled the trigger.

Playing it for the past few days has convinced me that I made the correct choice, as it's very comfortable. It's much more comfortable than my Gibson Thunderbird (although I've kind of adopted the "shift the body to the right" mode to address that bass' problems in that department). The 4003S fits me perfectly as is, which I didn't expect since I'd been mostly a Fender guy for most of my life. My right arm seems to fit perfectly in the top cut-out. So, I don't think ergonomics are going to be a problem with this bass.

One thing I didn't expect was that it's built like a tank. I always thought with all the cosmetics that it would be, I don't know, a frilly instrument. The neck on this beast is substantial. Comfortable, but seems really solid (more so than any of my Fender or Gibson necks, aside from the 1990 Les Paul bass, which is its own kind of tank).

The one thing I'm still getting used to is the odd "rosewood" color of the fingerboard. (I would call it "orangewood" instead.) I think I read it's a more renewable kind of rosewood, so there's that. I guess I'm still too used to the darker Indian rosewood fingerboards I grew up with.

Changed the strings from the nice round wounds that came with it (wonder if they were RotoSounds?) to my usual favorite LaBella Deep Talkin' flat wounds. This really gave the bass a completely different feel (and of course, sound). I guess I'm just being a McCartney fan boy, as I'm sure he got his tone by using flats. Anyway, now it feels even more comfortable.

The first picture was taken by me in my kitchen. The light in there is too muted, so the rest of the pictures are from the Reverb listing, which shows the blue color much more clearly.

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It *is* a bit on the heavy side (nine pounds two ounces), but not unbearable. I have a jazz bass that weighs more than that (nine pounds six ounces). And it's lighter than the Gibson Les Paul bass (solid body all mahogany) which weighs almost ten pounds (nine pounds 10 ounces).

One other thing I forgot to mention is that the nut width is 1.70". It doesn't feel as wide as the full 1.75" vintage Precision width, but it certainly feels wider than the usual 1 5/8 (1.625") modern Precision width. Also, the bridge and nut seem to narrow the strings such that you have at least an eighth of an inch on either side of the E and G strings before the edge of the fingerboard.
 
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Ever since I saw the cover of Deep Purple's Machine Head, I've always obsessed over the Rickenbacker bass. This week I finally got a nice used (2018) 4003s in midnight blue, and I absolutely love it so far.

Originally, I was sure that I wanted a 4003 (with the body binding (and sharp corners)), but I was worried about the ergonomics, based on everything I'd read. Also, I wanted one of the colors other than black and red. I did see a bunch of "burgundyglo" (wine red or maroon) from the 70s and 80s that I thought were beautiful. However, I quickly found that any color other than black or fire engine red (or the various clear coat walnut and maple) was going to double the price, especially on the old "vintage" ones. (I still can't get my head around calling anything from the 70's "vintage".) The burgundyglo Ricks all were running $4-6K, the few midnight blue ones I saw had similar "color premium" pricing.

I recently watched Rockshow (McCartney and Wings during the Wings over America tour), and I've always loved the bass tone Paul got on that record, and I knew it was a Rick. However, I was surprised to see him playing a 4003S, and thought it looked pretty nice. Maybe the body binding wasn't going to be a non-starter.

Then I happened to see this one come across Reverb for about $300 more than the "standard" colors. I thought there were pluses and minuses with the body binding and sharp edges, and they're basically the same bass other than the aesthetics, so I pulled the trigger.

Playing it for the past few days has convinced me that I made the correct choice, as it's very comfortable. It's much more comfortable than my Gibson Thunderbird (although I've kind of adopted the "shift the body to the right" mode to address that bass' problems in that department). The 4003S fits me perfectly as is, which I didn't expect since I'd been mostly a Fender guy for most of my life. My right arm seems to fit perfectly in the top cut-out. So, I don't think ergonomics are going to be a problem with this bass.

One thing I didn't expect was that it's built like a tank. I always thought with all the cosmetics that it would be, I don't know, a frilly instrument. The neck on this beast is substantial. Comfortable, but seems really solid (more so than any of my Fender or Gibson necks, aside from the 1990 Les Paul bass, which is its own kind of tank).

The one thing I'm still getting used to is the odd "rosewood" color of the fingerboard. (I would call it "orangewood" instead.) I think I read it's a more renewable kind of rosewood, so there's that. I guess I'm still too used to the darker Indian rosewood fingerboards I grew up with.

Changed the strings from the nice round wounds that came with it (wonder if they were RotoSounds?) to my usual favorite LaBella Deep Talkin' flat wounds. This really gave the bass a completely different feel (and of course, sound). I guess I'm just being a McCartney fan boy, as I'm sure he got his tone by using flats. Anyway, now it feels even more comfortable.

The first picture was taken by me in my kitchen. The light in there is too muted, so the rest of the pictures are from the Reverb listing, which shows the blue color much more clearly.

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Congrats on your new 4003S OP! 2018 was the last year Ric offered Midnight Blue as a standard finish, so your bass is special. Play it in good health and have fun!
 
I recently watched Rockshow (McCartney and Wings during the Wings over America tour), and I've always loved the bass tone Paul got on that record, and I knew it was a Rick. However, I was surprised to see him playing a 4003S, and thought it looked pretty nice. Maybe the body binding wasn't going to be a non-starter.
I think Paul uses his 4001S on that tour, and it's the one that he got in 1965. It's just that by that point that bass has been through some changes like removing the paint job (already seen like that at the end of Januray of 1969 in recently released Get Back series) and also had bridge pickup replaced somewhere in 70s ( and more repair work as well: arnquist ) which is kind of strange how his bass sound shifted to that slightly burpy bridge pickup sound live and even on the At the Speed of Sound album, because Paul usually preferred neck pickup on Hofner and Rick.
 
Ever since I saw the cover of Deep Purple's Machine Head, I've always obsessed over the Rickenbacker bass. This week I finally got a nice used (2018) 4003s in midnight blue, and I absolutely love it so far.

Originally, I was sure that I wanted a 4003 (with the body binding (and sharp corners)), but I was worried about the ergonomics, based on everything I'd read. Also, I wanted one of the colors other than black and red. I did see a bunch of "burgundyglo" (wine red or maroon) from the 70s and 80s that I thought were beautiful. However, I quickly found that any color other than black or fire engine red (or the various clear coat walnut and maple) was going to double the price, especially on the old "vintage" ones. (I still can't get my head around calling anything from the 70's "vintage".) The burgundyglo Ricks all were running $4-6K, the few midnight blue ones I saw had similar "color premium" pricing.

I recently watched Rockshow (McCartney and Wings during the Wings over America tour), and I've always loved the bass tone Paul got on that record, and I knew it was a Rick. However, I was surprised to see him playing a 4003S, and thought it looked pretty nice. Maybe the body binding wasn't going to be a non-starter.

Then I happened to see this one come across Reverb for about $300 more than the "standard" colors. I thought there were pluses and minuses with the body binding and sharp edges, and they're basically the same bass other than the aesthetics, so I pulled the trigger.

Playing it for the past few days has convinced me that I made the correct choice, as it's very comfortable. It's much more comfortable than my Gibson Thunderbird (although I've kind of adopted the "shift the body to the right" mode to address that bass' problems in that department). The 4003S fits me perfectly as is, which I didn't expect since I'd been mostly a Fender guy for most of my life. My right arm seems to fit perfectly in the top cut-out. So, I don't think ergonomics are going to be a problem with this bass.

One thing I didn't expect was that it's built like a tank. I always thought with all the cosmetics that it would be, I don't know, a frilly instrument. The neck on this beast is substantial. Comfortable, but seems really solid (more so than any of my Fender or Gibson necks, aside from the 1990 Les Paul bass, which is its own kind of tank).

The one thing I'm still getting used to is the odd "rosewood" color of the fingerboard. (I would call it "orangewood" instead.) I think I read it's a more renewable kind of rosewood, so there's that. I guess I'm still too used to the darker Indian rosewood fingerboards I grew up with.

Changed the strings from the nice round wounds that came with it (wonder if they were RotoSounds?) to my usual favorite LaBella Deep Talkin' flat wounds. This really gave the bass a completely different feel (and of course, sound). I guess I'm just being a McCartney fan boy, as I'm sure he got his tone by using flats. Anyway, now it feels even more comfortable.

The first picture was taken by me in my kitchen. The light in there is too muted, so the rest of the pictures are from the Reverb listing, which shows the blue color much more clearly.

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It looks gorgeous, congrats!:thumbsup:

Six years old. That seems like an ideal age when you buy a Rick. Still in great condition but old enough for the issues that some Ricks develop to have surfaced. It looks like you got a good one! Sadly I can't say the same about my early 2000s Rick. Worst mistake I ever made...

There's a good reason why the "rosewood" fretboard doesn't look like rosewood. It's bubinga.

Bubinga is sometimes referred to as "African rosewood" but it isn't a true rosewood.
 
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Congratulations!!!
Almost the same story as me.
Got a 4003s a couple years ago and love it. Now my number one. First thing I did was remove the pick up cover and then replaced the strings with the same flat wounds as you.
Also a Fender guy myself with the exception of a T bird.
Play it in good health!
 
Ever since I saw the cover of Deep Purple's Machine Head, I've always obsessed over the Rickenbacker bass. This week I finally got a nice used (2018) 4003s in midnight blue, and I absolutely love it so far.

Originally, I was sure that I wanted a 4003 (with the body binding (and sharp corners)), but I was worried about the ergonomics, based on everything I'd read. Also, I wanted one of the colors other than black and red. I did see a bunch of "burgundyglo" (wine red or maroon) from the 70s and 80s that I thought were beautiful. However, I quickly found that any color other than black or fire engine red (or the various clear coat walnut and maple) was going to double the price, especially on the old "vintage" ones. (I still can't get my head around calling anything from the 70's "vintage".) The burgundyglo Ricks all were running $4-6K, the few midnight blue ones I saw had similar "color premium" pricing.

I recently watched Rockshow (McCartney and Wings during the Wings over America tour), and I've always loved the bass tone Paul got on that record, and I knew it was a Rick. However, I was surprised to see him playing a 4003S, and thought it looked pretty nice. Maybe the body binding wasn't going to be a non-starter.

Then I happened to see this one come across Reverb for about $300 more than the "standard" colors. I thought there were pluses and minuses with the body binding and sharp edges, and they're basically the same bass other than the aesthetics, so I pulled the trigger.

Playing it for the past few days has convinced me that I made the correct choice, as it's very comfortable. It's much more comfortable than my Gibson Thunderbird (although I've kind of adopted the "shift the body to the right" mode to address that bass' problems in that department). The 4003S fits me perfectly as is, which I didn't expect since I'd been mostly a Fender guy for most of my life. My right arm seems to fit perfectly in the top cut-out. So, I don't think ergonomics are going to be a problem with this bass.

One thing I didn't expect was that it's built like a tank. I always thought with all the cosmetics that it would be, I don't know, a frilly instrument. The neck on this beast is substantial. Comfortable, but seems really solid (more so than any of my Fender or Gibson necks, aside from the 1990 Les Paul bass, which is its own kind of tank).

The one thing I'm still getting used to is the odd "rosewood" color of the fingerboard. (I would call it "orangewood" instead.) I think I read it's a more renewable kind of rosewood, so there's that. I guess I'm still too used to the darker Indian rosewood fingerboards I grew up with.

Changed the strings from the nice round wounds that came with it (wonder if they were RotoSounds?) to my usual favorite LaBella Deep Talkin' flat wounds. This really gave the bass a completely different feel (and of course, sound). I guess I'm just being a McCartney fan boy, as I'm sure he got his tone by using flats. Anyway, now it feels even more comfortable.

The first picture was taken by me in my kitchen. The light in there is too muted, so the rest of the pictures are from the Reverb listing, which shows the blue color much more clearly.

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Congrats!
I had that color before! So cool!
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/the-rickenbacker-club-part-twelve.1070836/page-3166#post-28374074
 
Ever since I saw the cover of Deep Purple's Machine Head, I've always obsessed over the Rickenbacker bass. This week I finally got a nice used (2018) 4003s in midnight blue, and I absolutely love it so far.

Originally, I was sure that I wanted a 4003 (with the body binding (and sharp corners)), but I was worried about the ergonomics, based on everything I'd read. Also, I wanted one of the colors other than black and red. I did see a bunch of "burgundyglo" (wine red or maroon) from the 70s and 80s that I thought were beautiful. However, I quickly found that any color other than black or fire engine red (or the various clear coat walnut and maple) was going to double the price, especially on the old "vintage" ones. (I still can't get my head around calling anything from the 70's "vintage".) The burgundyglo Ricks all were running $4-6K, the few midnight blue ones I saw had similar "color premium" pricing.

I recently watched Rockshow (McCartney and Wings during the Wings over America tour), and I've always loved the bass tone Paul got on that record, and I knew it was a Rick. However, I was surprised to see him playing a 4003S, and thought it looked pretty nice. Maybe the body binding wasn't going to be a non-starter.

Then I happened to see this one come across Reverb for about $300 more than the "standard" colors. I thought there were pluses and minuses with the body binding and sharp edges, and they're basically the same bass other than the aesthetics, so I pulled the trigger.

Playing it for the past few days has convinced me that I made the correct choice, as it's very comfortable. It's much more comfortable than my Gibson Thunderbird (although I've kind of adopted the "shift the body to the right" mode to address that bass' problems in that department). The 4003S fits me perfectly as is, which I didn't expect since I'd been mostly a Fender guy for most of my life. My right arm seems to fit perfectly in the top cut-out. So, I don't think ergonomics are going to be a problem with this bass.

One thing I didn't expect was that it's built like a tank. I always thought with all the cosmetics that it would be, I don't know, a frilly instrument. The neck on this beast is substantial. Comfortable, but seems really solid (more so than any of my Fender or Gibson necks, aside from the 1990 Les Paul bass, which is its own kind of tank).

The one thing I'm still getting used to is the odd "rosewood" color of the fingerboard. (I would call it "orangewood" instead.) I think I read it's a more renewable kind of rosewood, so there's that. I guess I'm still too used to the darker Indian rosewood fingerboards I grew up with.

Changed the strings from the nice round wounds that came with it (wonder if they were RotoSounds?) to my usual favorite LaBella Deep Talkin' flat wounds. This really gave the bass a completely different feel (and of course, sound). I guess I'm just being a McCartney fan boy, as I'm sure he got his tone by using flats. Anyway, now it feels even more comfortable.

The first picture was taken by me in my kitchen. The light in there is too muted, so the rest of the pictures are from the Reverb listing, which shows the blue color much more clearly.

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Congrats on your new bass. Here's to many hours of enjoyment.

As a former owner of a 70's 4001 for 34 years, I never found the edges uncomfortable when having the bass properly positioned on my body. However playing while sitting for hours could get uncomfortable. I was to young and dumb to care and having a Rick vs a Fender was more of a status symbol.

I played a 4003 just a few years ago and sound wise it's pretty much the same as a 4001, although I didn't have the ROS setup I had back then that was massive.

Best wishes.
 
The fretboard looks more like it's made of padouk instead of rosewood but it's super nice anyway.
What I really like about this specific bass is the fact there is a recess for the right forearm and that's exactly why I never looked at Rick in the past but knowing this now…………