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NBD: G&L Kiloton 5

Apr 29, 2018
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I received this over a month ago and had been waiting to post until I could try it with my band. Long story short, the guitarist decided he didn't want to do the band thing anymore for a while, so the opportunity hasn't arisen.

So here it is. A USA G&L Kiloton 5 string in surf green:
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I usually prefer maple boards with this color, but the rosewood (at least in person) looks beautiful and rich with plenty of variation in the brown, and the block inlays are gorgeous. It originally came with a red tort pickguard which looks great on its own, but I'm not really a fan of it with the green, so I ordered a white pearloid guard from G&L and I think it looks much nicer. Plus it compliments the inlays.

It took some time to find strings I liked with it. I remember when I had had an L2000 that it sounded considerably better with rounds so I was sticking with those. It came with D'addarios, but they were getting a little dull so I then tried Dean Markley signatures (a pack was included.) They were okay, but a little thin for my tastes. They were fair enough when I tried playing along with a track, but on their own I couldn't get the bottom end I wanted. My next attempt was a pack of Ernie Ball cobalt flats. Apparently they're supposed to sound a lot more like rounds while still having the feel of flats. I'm not so sure about that. They're definitely in the flatwound timbral area, though maybe they're a tad brighter. Maybe. Either way they work quite well on the kiloton. It gives a fatter bottom with lots of rich color to the tone, and although they're a tad gummy under the fingers, they generally feel nice to play. I'm going to keep them for now. (FTR I got the 4 pack and kept the roundwound B string. I don't really notice a difference in tone or volume moving from the E to B.)

The neck is far and away the best I've ever felt on a bass. It's silky smooth in a way that's hard to describe. There's a slight browning of the maple which I'm not sure if its natural or a stain added to it, but it looks very nice. There's an attractive pattern along it. It's not a plain piece of wood by any means, and definitely one of the biggest differences I've noticed between the USA models and the Tributes. I can't say enough how pleased I am with it.

Having the switch in series mode really deepens the tone and I would love to try it with some heavier rock tunes when I get the chance. Parallel is thinner, but more even. I find myself using it the most. My one disappointment with the switch is that I notice little to no difference when comparing Parallel with the single coil mode. The tone is pretty much identical. Maybe a subtle accent of the higher frequencies, but it's honestly hard for me to pinpoint what's different. This was the case with both the rounds and flats.

The volume knob is smooth and changes from 0 to 10. The sound really seems to hit its sweet spot with the volume maxed. In comparison I remember the L2000 seemed best around 8 or so. The tone knob on the other hand doesn't seem to do much. I notice a change from 0-2, and then from 3-10 it's all the same to my ears. Sadly what change I hear is subtle. Is there any way to make the tone control more dynamic?

That one negative aside, the bass sounds fantastic regardless of where the tone knob is set so I'm not really feeling let down by it.

Overall I'm super happy with the purchase, and now even with the honeymoon phase past, I play it every day and can easily see myself having this as a lifelong instrument. It's truly fantastic. I'm proud to own it!
 
I am no fan of kiloton basses, but that is one gorgeous bass! I love the color, the blocks and the pearloid guard.

Maple exposed to the air tends to develop a darker oxidation from the sugars in it. So it may depend on how long the maple sat is stock. The neck isn't "roasted" is it? Those are the shiznit!

As for single coil tone, the thing to listen for is a bell-like clarity of highs. The deal is a humbucker picks up strings at two places which leads to a fatter kind of tone, while single coil just picks up at one place which gives a slightly greater purity of tone. You'll have to listen carefully to hear it.

I do not know what kind of tone pot that has, but one trick to spread the function of the tone over more rotation is to change the pot from linear to logarithmic (audio)...assuming it started out linear taper.
 
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It took some time to find strings I liked with it. I remember when I had had an L2000 that it sounded considerably better with rounds so I was sticking with those. It came with D'addarios, but they were getting a little dull so I then tried Dean Markley signatures (a pack was included.) They were okay, but a little thin for my tastes. They were fair enough when I tried playing along with a track, but on their own I couldn't get the bottom end I wanted. My next attempt was a pack of Ernie Ball cobalt flats. Apparently they're supposed to sound a lot more like rounds while still having the feel of flats. I'm not so sure about that. They're definitely in the flatwound timbral area, though maybe they're a tad brighter. Maybe. Either way they work quite well on the kiloton. It gives a fatter bottom with lots of rich color to the tone, and although they're a tad gummy under the fingers, they generally feel nice to play. I'm going to keep them for now. (FTR I got the 4 pack and kept the roundwound B string. I don't really notice a difference in tone or volume moving from the E to B.

:thumbsup: Nice. For strings check out GHS Pressurewounds. Very mellow with a unique outer wrap that's smoother and reduces finger noise. Very versatile string. I play them on my Jazz Bass and will on my L2500 as well next time I change strings.

+1 on the GHS PW recommendation. I have them on a Fender PJ and Ric 4003 and reckon they do great on both.
 
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I received this over a month ago and had been waiting to post until I could try it with my band. Long story short, the guitarist decided he didn't want to do the band thing anymore for a while, so the opportunity hasn't arisen.

So here it is. A USA G&L Kiloton 5 string in surf green:
View attachment 3245953

I usually prefer maple boards with this color, but the rosewood (at least in person) looks beautiful and rich with plenty of variation in the brown, and the block inlays are gorgeous. It originally came with a red tort pickguard which looks great on its own, but I'm not really a fan of it with the green, so I ordered a white pearloid guard from G&L and I think it looks much nicer. Plus it compliments the inlays.

It took some time to find strings I liked with it. I remember when I had had an L2000 that it sounded considerably better with rounds so I was sticking with those. It came with D'addarios, but they were getting a little dull so I then tried Dean Markley signatures (a pack was included.) They were okay, but a little thin for my tastes. They were fair enough when I tried playing along with a track, but on their own I couldn't get the bottom end I wanted. My next attempt was a pack of Ernie Ball cobalt flats. Apparently they're supposed to sound a lot more like rounds while still having the feel of flats. I'm not so sure about that. They're definitely in the flatwound timbral area, though maybe they're a tad brighter. Maybe. Either way they work quite well on the kiloton. It gives a fatter bottom with lots of rich color to the tone, and although they're a tad gummy under the fingers, they generally feel nice to play. I'm going to keep them for now. (FTR I got the 4 pack and kept the roundwound B string. I don't really notice a difference in tone or volume moving from the E to B.)

The neck is far and away the best I've ever felt on a bass. It's silky smooth in a way that's hard to describe. There's a slight browning of the maple which I'm not sure if its natural or a stain added to it, but it looks very nice. There's an attractive pattern along it. It's not a plain piece of wood by any means, and definitely one of the biggest differences I've noticed between the USA models and the Tributes. I can't say enough how pleased I am with it.

Having the switch in series mode really deepens the tone and I would love to try it with some heavier rock tunes when I get the chance. Parallel is thinner, but more even. I find myself using it the most. My one disappointment with the switch is that I notice little to no difference when comparing Parallel with the single coil mode. The tone is pretty much identical. Maybe a subtle accent of the higher frequencies, but it's honestly hard for me to pinpoint what's different. This was the case with both the rounds and flats.

The volume knob is smooth and changes from 0 to 10. The sound really seems to hit its sweet spot with the volume maxed. In comparison I remember the L2000 seemed best around 8 or so. The tone knob on the other hand doesn't seem to do much. I notice a change from 0-2, and then from 3-10 it's all the same to my ears. Sadly what change I hear is subtle. Is there any way to make the tone control more dynamic?

That one negative aside, the bass sounds fantastic regardless of where the tone knob is set so I'm not really feeling let down by it.

Overall I'm super happy with the purchase, and now even with the honeymoon phase past, I play it every day and can easily see myself having this as a lifelong instrument. It's truly fantastic. I'm proud to own it!
GHS black tapewounds.
I have them on my L2000 and a spare set for my next G&L.
By the way, that’s one hell of a Kiloton!
 
I received this over a month ago and had been waiting to post until I could try it with my band. Long story short, the guitarist decided he didn't want to do the band thing anymore for a while, so the opportunity hasn't arisen.

So here it is. A USA G&L Kiloton 5 string in surf green:
View attachment 3245953

I usually prefer maple boards with this color, but the rosewood (at least in person) looks beautiful and rich with plenty of variation in the brown, and the block inlays are gorgeous. It originally came with a red tort pickguard which looks great on its own, but I'm not really a fan of it with the green, so I ordered a white pearloid guard from G&L and I think it looks much nicer. Plus it compliments the inlays.

It took some time to find strings I liked with it. I remember when I had had an L2000 that it sounded considerably better with rounds so I was sticking with those. It came with D'addarios, but they were getting a little dull so I then tried Dean Markley signatures (a pack was included.) They were okay, but a little thin for my tastes. They were fair enough when I tried playing along with a track, but on their own I couldn't get the bottom end I wanted. My next attempt was a pack of Ernie Ball cobalt flats. Apparently they're supposed to sound a lot more like rounds while still having the feel of flats. I'm not so sure about that. They're definitely in the flatwound timbral area, though maybe they're a tad brighter. Maybe. Either way they work quite well on the kiloton. It gives a fatter bottom with lots of rich color to the tone, and although they're a tad gummy under the fingers, they generally feel nice to play. I'm going to keep them for now. (FTR I got the 4 pack and kept the roundwound B string. I don't really notice a difference in tone or volume moving from the E to B.)

The neck is far and away the best I've ever felt on a bass. It's silky smooth in a way that's hard to describe. There's a slight browning of the maple which I'm not sure if its natural or a stain added to it, but it looks very nice. There's an attractive pattern along it. It's not a plain piece of wood by any means, and definitely one of the biggest differences I've noticed between the USA models and the Tributes. I can't say enough how pleased I am with it.

Having the switch in series mode really deepens the tone and I would love to try it with some heavier rock tunes when I get the chance. Parallel is thinner, but more even. I find myself using it the most. My one disappointment with the switch is that I notice little to no difference when comparing Parallel with the single coil mode. The tone is pretty much identical. Maybe a subtle accent of the higher frequencies, but it's honestly hard for me to pinpoint what's different. This was the case with both the rounds and flats.

The volume knob is smooth and changes from 0 to 10. The sound really seems to hit its sweet spot with the volume maxed. In comparison I remember the L2000 seemed best around 8 or so. The tone knob on the other hand doesn't seem to do much. I notice a change from 0-2, and then from 3-10 it's all the same to my ears. Sadly what change I hear is subtle. Is there any way to make the tone control more dynamic?

That one negative aside, the bass sounds fantastic regardless of where the tone knob is set so I'm not really feeling let down by it.

Overall I'm super happy with the purchase, and now even with the honeymoon phase past, I play it every day and can easily see myself having this as a lifelong instrument. It's truly fantastic. I'm proud to own it!

I’m looking into ordering this bass in a few weeks, I have a few configuration and price questions, You can PM me if you dont want to discuss them here.
 
I’m looking into ordering this bass in a few weeks, I have a few configuration and price questions, You can PM me if you dont want to discuss them here.

If you have questions about the specs, I won’t be able to answer most of those until next week when I get home from vacation. Mine was also already made so I didn’t go through the building process, but if you do I’d definitely like to hear how it went. I’d like to have one made one day!
 
I agree that the tone on the Kiloton is a bit different sounding than other passive tone knobs. To me it sounds almost like a band pass filter as it takes down the high frequencies. However, through my gear, I can definitely hear the change right through the entire sweep of the tone knob. It's just not the type of change I expect to hear.

For example, as the tone goes down from maybe 2 to 0, it's almost as if there is a bit of a boost in the very high frequencies, even though most of the highs have been rolled off.

As for the single, parallel modes I hear a distinct brightness around 4 KHz in Single mode over Parallel. Parallel sounds a bit rounder.

I'll point out that mine is fretless, so the pickups may highlight a slightly different sound.
 

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