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NBD? NGD? What is it? AN ABOMINATION!

Riff Ranger

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About ten minutes after I thought I might want what I’ve taken to calling a “bass baritone guitar”—an instrument tuned B0–B2, an octave below a common baritone guitar tuning—Ibanez actually came out with an instrument that just might do it, and at a price I could justify for what remains an experiment for me. They call it the SRC6MS; I call it THE ABOMINATION! :jawdrop:

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Even at an attractive price, I still wanted to sell something to fund it, and I had a number of repair jobs lined up as well, so it took me over a year to get around to finally acquiring this thing.

To be clear, Ibanez didn’t explicitly design this for B0–B2. It came tuned E1–E3 like more conventional Bass-VI-style instruments, and even though I prefer low tension on my strings, I have to agree with those who say the .084 bottom string in the default D’Addario set (that came on it) doesn’t handle the low E1 very well. I have an Eastwood Hooky Bass VI set by GHS on the way which has a .105 on the bottom, which can certainly handle E1 at 30” scale; even though the tension with that set won’t be any higher than that of the stock set, I tuned the .105 on my 28.6” scale Ibanez MiKro down to B0 and found it plenty playable, so I feel hopeful about those. Check this out, though:

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The ferrules for the two lowest strings will accommodate the ball ends typically used on bass strings, so I could try thicker short scale bass strings for the bottom end! :woot:

I obviously haven’t had it long but so far I would say it feels and sounds like both and neither a bass and guitar at the same time :laugh: in any event, it felt comfortable right out of the box, with a good setup and no fret sprout or any other unwelcome surprises. The electronics seem versatile but most clean tones sound a lot like a hi-fi P/J bass; soloing or favoring the bridge pickup starts to sound more guitar-like, especially when boosting the mids and playing with dirt.

Right away, I hear what some said in my earlier thread about playing chords; on more conventional six-string basses and even basses vi, chords tend to get muddled in the lower positions. I might take a deep dive into Robert Smith’s bass vi parts with The Cure for some inspiration. I can count on one thing: this instrument will take me to some entirely new sonic spaces :hyper:
 
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I lusted after one of these so bad when I first saw them released. Then I had a moment of common sense and just stayed with my original SRC6. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

There was a thread a few years back where an SRC6 was tuned B0-C2.
https://www.talkbass.com/threads/ibanez-src6-successful-conversion.1268813/
I had my eye on that version after its discontinuation, but the stars never aligned. Then along came this one, which I could buy new at a comparable price and easily return if I didn’t take to it, so I opted for it despite the multi-scale rather than because of it. I had never played on fanned frets before acquiring this instrument, but I had only ever heard that it took virtually no adjustment from those who had actually tried them, and I have to agree—I really only notice it when I see it.

I will look into that conversation thread; I think I’ve seen it, but even so it sounds like a good time to (re)read it. Thank you :cool:
 
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That’s rad! Apart from tone how does the multi scale affect ability to chord? I was always intrigued by the other six baritone that Ibanez put out a few years ago.

enjoy the deep dive into Robert Smith’s work!
So far, I don’t find the fanned frets affect my playing much at all. Cleanly fretting an Fm chord might be slightly harder than on a typical guitar, but that could be the heavier strings as much as the angle of the frets. Unlike on a typical guitar, I do have a good reason to avoid that particular chord on this instrument: even if I play it cleanly, it still sounds muddled in that octave just because of how sound works.
 
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So far, I don’t find the fanned frets affect my playing much at all. Cleanly fretting an Fm chord might be slightly harder than on a typical guitar, but that could be the heavier strings as much as the angle of the frets. Unlike on a typical guitar, I do have a good reason to avoid that particular chord on this instrument: even if I play it cleanly, it still sounds muddled in that octave just because of how sound works.
From your photos, it doesn't look like there is much of a fan to those frets. Which would be a good thing IMO.
 
From your photos, it doesn't look like there is much of a fan to those frets. Which would be a good thing IMO.
28.5” on the treble side (very close to a MiKro’s 28.6”), 30” on the bass side (typical short scale or bass vi scale), so not extreme. I do wonder if I’d notice more on a 34–37” fanned fretboard. If I had one made for me I’d probably just go for 30” across the board (forgive me, but dads gotta dad joke) but it really hasn’t been much of an adjustment at all. I kinda like it in the higher frets, where I expect to spend more time than on my more conventional basses.
 
tbh i have wondered how well this would work as a baritone guitar
i mean 28.5-30 tuned like my 7 string just missing hte highest string might work well for doing double tracks and stuff alongside my drop a 7 string [which is 25.5-27 scale]
either way it looks pretty awesome
and agreed i find the multiscale thing no real difference slightly easier to play if anything
nice instrument enjoy!!!!!
 
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