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NBD: Rickenbacker 4005xc (day 2 impressions)

TTA

Jun 10, 2021
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So after about a year wait… my 4005xc arrived. It started out as me wanting an acoustic bass to noodle around with unplugged at home. It ended with this…

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Lets start with the obvious… it is gorgeous! Sure the 330 body is a bit like a red pacman… but imho it is one of rickenbackers most iconic shapes. If this bass enters a room… everyone will notice.

I have three cosmetic suggestions:
- 330 style headstock
- the stickers NEED TO GO!
- i love the 70’s style crushed pearl inlays… but i wish they were lighter to pop more.

but at the end of the day we have an immaculately finished bass with DOUBLE checker binding… and a fireglo that is INTENSE!!! This is imho an incredible looking instrument that is just so unique in the bass world.

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Notable features include the skunk stripe, vintage style clear truss rod cover back-painted white, and toasters on rubber stilts.

Playability:

I am a finger-style player that recently has swapped mostly to pick. I am also a jazz/4003 player who has been recently putting most of my time into a five string Dingwall 37” multiscale bass. So a ~30 inch scale with straight frets took about as much time to get accustomed to as it took me to get used to the Dingwall the first time… i.e. not long but it took a few minutes.

For pick it is amazing. I play it in a high position and rest my right forarm on the body, and my picking position is ideal… very guitar like. Big surprise! Sitting… the dimensions of the bass make it my favourite to play with pick. It feels right.

Access to the 24 frets is 100% unrestricted. Top marks on the neck, which feels like the same profile as a 4003. The action is low and perfect. No complaints. My biggest adjustment is that the bridge position compared to my 37” has me often drifting closer to the bridge.

Finger-style… i need more time. Sitting; i need to angle my wrist more than i prefer to, or i play near the bridge. Standing… sorry guys but here is where is gets less ideal.

Standing with this bass is a reminder this is a bass neck on a guitar body… not a carefully balanced object. This is not a heavy bass… but it has neck dive predictably. My suede straps hold it… but it needs support. Standing fingerstyle, i drop it a bit to get my wrist closer to straight and anchor my thumb in the neck pickup. Picking… i rest my right forearm on the body. Both keep the bass pointing properly.


Sometimes i like to play with a very neck up, body down position for better access (dingwall 5er). The neck and general body shape say “Not happening here…” but easy access to all frets makes it not a requirement, so i run a more traditional angle of play.

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Smell:

It is only day 2, but the semihollow body makes this have that great new bass smell far more than any other bass i have had. Love it!


Sound:

Acoustically it is semihollowbody… but has a nice tone for unplugged playing. Solid for playing around at home. not acoustic loud… but way louder than any unplugged electric.

as far as tone goes i am a huge fan of the neck pickup. It is very balanced. I am not saying it sounds pbass… but it has that middle if the road p bass versatility. I did not a/b compare it to my ric… but my first impression was that sounds like it is somewhere between a neck and bridge position on a 4003.

The bridge pickup predictably has a very treble tone… and i dont see much utility soloing it. My early favourite tones are the neck soloed, Or both on with the bridge pickup dialled back slightly. Kind of the reverse of what i like on my 4003’s.

One last thought… yes it is single truss rod. And yes I read that one broke off at the weld. And yes mine has a scary looking weld. *** ricenbacker?

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Final thoughts:

There is no doubt this is a ric. It is that gorgeous look that is polarizing to many (turned up to 11 in both looks and ability to polarize) and a unique but very ric sound. This is combined with no shortage of Rickenbacker quirks, and a price to match the model number.

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So is it a keeper or a flipper? For me it is 100% a keeper and i cant stop playing it. And when i am not playing it… i am positioning it where i can enjoy it’s beauty.

now… time to scrape off those stickers…. :-0

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now… time to scrape off those stickers…. :-0

Congratulations on the new 4005XC. I got one a few weeks ago and love it too.

Before you scrape off the stickers, did you give any thought to just unscrewing the top plate and removing it? It's only three screws and little posts. You might need to use shorter replacement screws, I don't know how thick the wood is in that area.
 
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Congratulations on the new 4005XC. I got one a few weeks ago and love it too.

Before you scrape off the stickers, did you give any thought to just unscrewing the top plate and removing it? It's only three screws and little posts. You might need to use shorter replacement screws, I don't know how thick the wood is in that area.

my plan was to replace the top plate. Not sure it is standard size for a 330 however. I need a solution soon as thr stickers are ugly imho, and this bass is for me… not others.
 
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Congrats & Agreed!

my plan was to replace the top plate. Not sure it is standard size for a 330 however. I need a solution soon as thr stickers are ugly imho, and this bass is for me… not others.
@TTA - Before you remove the stickers (I agree - they have to go!,) consider switching out the top pickguard. Pickguardian makes an exact replacement for the 4005XC. Truth be told, I had a 4005XC on order several months ago and ordered the Pickguardian top PG in advance (I since canceled my order and went in a different direction as I already have 2 Rics.) My plan was to keep the stickers on the original and store it, and replace with the Pickguardian for playing. So now I have this, new and unused. Please let me know if you're interested.
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So after about a year wait… my 4005xc arrived. It started out as me wanting an acoustic bass to noodle around with unplugged at home. It ended with this…

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Lets start with the obvious… it is gorgeous! Sure the 330 body is a bit like a red pacman… but imho it is one of rickenbackers most iconic shapes. If this bass enters a room… everyone will notice.

I have three cosmetic suggestions:
- 330 style headstock
- the stickers NEED TO GO!
- i love the 70’s style crushed pearl inlays… but i wish they were lighter to pop more.

but at the end of the day we have an immaculately finished bass with DOUBLE checker binding… and a fireglo that is INTENSE!!! This is imho an incredible looking instrument that is just so unique in the bass world.

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Notable features include the skunk stripe, vintage style clear truss rod cover back-painted white, and toasters on rubber stilts.

Playability:

I am a finger-style player that recently has swapped mostly to pick. I am also a jazz/4003 player who has been recently putting most of my time into a five string Dingwall 37” multiscale bass. So a ~30 inch scale with straight frets took about as much time to get accustomed to as it took me to get used to the Dingwall the first time… i.e. not long but it took a few minutes.

For pick it is amazing. I play it in a high position and rest my right forarm on the body, and my picking position is ideal… very guitar like. Big surprise! Sitting… the dimensions of the bass make it my favourite to play with pick. It feels right.

Access to the 24 frets is 100% unrestricted. Top marks on the neck, which feels like the same profile as a 4003. The action is low and perfect. No complaints. My biggest adjustment is that the bridge position compared to my 37” has me often drifting closer to the bridge.

Finger-style… i need more time. Sitting; i need to angle my wrist more than i prefer to, or i play near the bridge. Standing… sorry guys but here is where is gets less ideal.

Standing with this bass is a reminder this is a bass neck on a guitar body… not a carefully balanced object. This is not a heavy bass… but it has neck dive predictably. My suede straps hold it… but it needs support. Standing fingerstyle, i drop it a bit to get my wrist closer to straight and anchor my thumb in the neck pickup. Picking… i rest my right forearm on the body. Both keep the bass pointing properly.


Sometimes i like to play with a very neck up, body down position for better access (dingwall 5er). The neck and general body shape say “Not happening here…” but easy access to all frets makes it not a requirement, so i run a more traditional angle of play.

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Smell:

It is only day 2, but the semihollow body makes this have that great new bass smell far more than any other bass i have had. Love it!


Sound:

Acoustically it is semihollowbody… but has a nice tone for unplugged playing. Solid for playing around at home. not acoustic loud… but way louder than any unplugged electric.

as far as tone goes i am a huge fan of the neck pickup. It is very balanced. I am not saying it sounds pbass… but it has that middle if the road p bass versatility. I did not a/b compare it to my ric… but my first impression was that sounds like it is somewhere between a neck and bridge position on a 4003.

The bridge pickup predictably has a very treble tone… and i dont see much utility soloing it. My early favourite tones are the neck soloed, Or both on with the bridge pickup dialled back slightly. Kind of the reverse of what i like on my 4003’s.

One last thought… yes it is single truss rod. And yes I read that one broke off at the weld. And yes mine has a scary looking weld. *** ricenbacker?

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Final thoughts:

There is no doubt this is a ric. It is that gorgeous look that is polarizing to many (turned up to 11 in both looks and ability to polarize) and a unique but very ric sound. This is combined with no shortage of Rickenbacker quirks, and a price to match the model number.

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So is it a keeper or a flipper? For me it is 100% a keeper and i cant stop playing it. And when i am not playing it… i am positioning it where i can enjoy it’s beauty.

now… time to scrape off those stickers…. :-0

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Is the little knob a balance control between the pickups? I was a little disappointed when they went with that shape, I like the original 4005's better. I also didn't realize they were short scale, thanks for a very good review.
 
Congrats & Agreed!


@TTA - Before you remove the stickers (I agree - they have to go!,) consider switching out the top pickguard. Pickguardian makes an exact replacement for the 4005XC. Truth be told, I had a 4005XC on order several months ago and ordered the Pickguardian top PG in advance (I since canceled my order and went in a different direction as I already have 2 Rics.) My plan was to keep the stickers on the original and store it, and replace with the Pickguardian for playing. So now I have this, new and unused. Please let me know if you're interested.View attachment 4641418
Very interested. See pm
 
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Nice bass. Is that a walnut fretboard? The stickers should peel right off. They aren't meant to stay on. They are only are essentially just like the hang tags other companies used for instruments going on the sales floor.
The stickers are there for the subset of ric enthusiasts that feel the bass will be devalued with sticker removal.

i am sure a ric expert can fill us in on the fretboard… but it is not walnut. And it is beautiful.
 
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Is the little knob a balance control between the pickups? I was a little disappointed when they went with that shape, I like the original 4005's better. I also didn't realize they were short scale, thanks for a very good review.
The 5th knob is the magic knob that i dont think anyone really knows the purpose of. It appears to phase out the neck pickup. But then… so does the neck pickup volume control… so i must be missing something.
:-D


And vs the original 4005 shape… i would have passed had it been the “correct” shape. I am in the “i prefer other body shapes more” camp when it comes to the original 4005. The 330 is weird and cool and iconic imho.

but i do think it is a complete stretch calling this a 4005. Is is a short scale bass with a 330 body. To me it will always be a 4330… aka “pacman”.
 
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Nice bass. Is that a walnut fretboard? The stickers should peel right off. They aren't meant to stay on. They are only are essentially just like the hang tags other companies used for instruments going on the sales floor.
Nice report!

I had a '67 4005 that I never quite bonded with.

It was beautiful and sounded great, but the 34" scale neck was a real diver and I had to stretch to reach the low notes...

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Me and my 4330 (wink) bonded immediately.

I am a massive fan (pun) of multiscale at the moment. 34-37”. I have a 5 that feels just fine and a 6 string arriving some time in april as long as things are on schedule. They have great access but the 4330 feels criminally easy.
 
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