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New Bass Day Semi Build

Finally got my (Stratosphere body) and roasted maple neck back from the luthier today. Hipshot ultralights too. Bought all the hardware from Stratosphere(except tuners & neck).
He also put on some new Apex Traditional Cryos and filed the nut/levelled frets.

Not sure if we are going to keep the pups, rewire them or replace---been playing it a couple days and just cannot get the sustain right---any suggestions thanks.

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I have a couple possible solutions.
1) The screws should pass freely through the body. If they have to be screwed through its possible you don't have a good body to neck seating.
2) Did you twist the strings around the post or wind the tuning machines. It is possible by very unlikely that you have all the strings twisted; but four twisted strings is something I've NEVER seen.
 
I have a couple possible solutions.
1) The screws should pass freely through the body. If they have to be screwed through its possible you don't have a good body to neck seating.
2) Did you twist the strings around the post or wind the tuning machines. It is possible by very unlikely that you have all the strings twisted; but four twisted strings is something I've NEVER seen.
He had to drill new holes in the neck, so he used the existing body holes. Not quite sure exactly. I think i am just used to the Stingray Special voicing. Maybe I just need the pickups rewired and tweek my pedals a bit.
 
He had to drill new holes in the neck, so he used the existing body holes. Not quite sure exactly. I think i am just used to the Stingray Special voicing. Maybe I just need the pickups rewired and tweek my pedals a bit.
Body holes often are drilled to size but when the finish work is done finish get into the holes and closes the up some. Unless they are drilled out, the screws no longer slide through the neck and must be screwed in. Just pull a screw and see if it will slide out of the body. If one does they probably all do.
 
Body holes often are drilled to size but when the finish work is done finish get into the holes and closes the up some. Unless they are drilled out, the screws no longer slide through the neck and must be screwed in. Just pull a screw and see if it will slide out of the body. If one does they probably all do.
They slide in the body nicely, then hit the neck and must screw in a little. It is not super tight or that much to screw down. Later tonight, will try plugging straight into the amp, vs all the pedals. Might be my issue, not sure.
 
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Found the sauce. Sounds like a farty, boomy, slightly clanky P from the best punk records. Amp dialed in to just over a 1/4 on bass/mids/treble.

Man, these Am. Pro ii Alnico pickups are awesome---I see no need to rewire or swap. Maybe rewire, to get them louder, but not yet, having too much fun the way it is.
 
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Found the sauce. Sounds like a farty, boomy, slightly clanky P from the best punk records. Amp dialed in to just over a 1/4 on bass/mids/treble.

Man, these Am. Pro ii Alnico pickups are awesome---I see no need to rewire or swap. Maybe rewire, to get them louder, but not yet, having too much fun the way it is.

You might consider a series/parallel switch.
 
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Yea, V Mod II.

I plan to give mine at least a full year, before I even consider making any changes - so far I've no complaints.

I know a few people have commented that they don't like the contrast between the AlNiCo 2, and AlNiCo 5 sides of the pickup - that they feel the A2 side had character, but has a soft attack.

I actually feel that the pickup overall gives a pretty honest representation of how the bass sounds acoustically - in that any softness I'm noticing is already present in the strings themselves.

Anyway, my intent is to spend a lot of time getting to know the details of what contribution is made by the pickup, and what is made by the wood, and how it all reacts under a variety of conditions : live / studio / amp / DI etc.

Only then, if I'm not satisfied, will I think about making changes : the first of which will be swapping the halves of the pickup around - so that the A5 is under the E & A, and the A2 is under the D & G.

I'll put that through its paces for at least 6 months, and if that doesn't give satisfactory results, it will finally be time to venture down the pickup rabbit hole.
 
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I plan to give mine at least a full year, before I even consider making any changes - so far I've no complaints.

I know a few people have commented that they don't like the contrast between the AlNiCo 2, and AlNiCo 5 sides of the pickup - that they feel the A2 side had character, but has a soft attack.

I actually feel that the pickup overall gives a pretty honest representation of how the bass sounds acoustically - in that any softness I'm noticing is already present in the strings themselves.

Anyway, my intent is to spend a lot of time getting to know the details of what contribution is made by the pickup, and what is made by the wood, and how it all reacts under a variety of conditions : live / studio / amp / DI etc.

Only then, if I'm not satisfied, will I think about making changes : the first of which will be swapping the halves of the pickup around - so that the A5 is under the E & A, and the A2 is under the D & G.

I'll put that through its paces for at least 6 months, and if that doesn't give satisfactory results, it will finally be time to venture down the pickup rabbit hole.
Sounds like a plan. I have only had it a few days, but really have the pedals dialed in. I dig the original configuration and figured, If I add the series/parallel switch, I can still have the original V Mods II's, but the option to switch between both. Sounds like a cheap win, win mod to me.
 
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Just reversed the pickups---left to right and right to left, to see if it was indeed better. Just seemed muddier and not really any louder. These V Mod II's definately have a lower output. Very refined, but I normally play loud punk and metal--I need the beef.


It wouldn't make it any louder, but the expectation is that it would make the E & A strings a little more aggressive / hefty, and the D & G a little smoother.

Some people say A2 is less dynamic than A5. Some people say the reverse is true.

We're used to hearing an all A5 on a Fender Precision, although early 70's models used A3, and I've heard that some 50's models used A2 (I think the Seymour Duncan Antiquity is A2).

I don't really know, as this isn't a rabbit hole I particularly want to go down, but I've heard great A2 Precision pickups, great A3 pickups, and great A5 pickups.

Generally speaking, I love 50's Precisions, and 70's Precisions - I'm not at all fixated on 60's instruments, or chasing Jamerson's tone.

I get the impression that V-Mod II pickups are under-wound (I think they're around 9k, although I've seen people claim 11k), which would explain the low output - although I don't find it to be much lower than my StingRay.

If it is under-wound, perhaps the idea was to put the D & G side (A5) in the brighter 1950's ball park (bright and clear = modern, when people are associating dark with vintage - even though 50's is older than 60's), and then in order to get the volume matched, with the tone darker and smoother (ie somewhat more "vintage" than a bright and clear A5) the solution was to use A2 on the E & A side???

I don't know, I'm just speculating, but as someone who likes 50's & 70's pickups, that might explain why I find the V-Mod II interesting, if not ideal (I still haven't decided, if I do end up swapping the pickups, whether to go for a 50's voicing, or play it safe with a 60's voicing).

If you're mostly playing punk & metal, that combo suggests to me late 70's to early 80's - so they would have been using either beat-up 60's Precisions (they weren't collectors items, just cheap used instruments), or fairly new 70's Precisions.

I haven't a clue if the likes of JJ Burnel, Paul Simonon, or Dee Dee Ramone just used their Precisions stock, but I remember during that period that a lot of Metal bassists were finding stock Fender pickups too weak, and swapping them for something more powerful (to compete with the emerging active basses).

Those Seymour Duncan, Bartolini, and EMG pickups are still popular to this day, but I find the whole thing a bit of a minefield - if you're chasing this So called "classic" P-bass tone (because it "sits perfectly in the mix" yadda, yadda) , yet trying to make it sound more powerful, more bass heavy, more snarl, louder etc you're deviating from all the things that made it work so well in the first place.
 
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It wouldn't make it any louder, but the expectation is that it would make the E & A strings a little more aggressive / hefty, and the D & G a little smoother.

Some people say A2 is less dynamic than A5. Some people say the reverse is true.

We're used to hearing an all A5 on a Fender Precision, although early 70's models used A3, and I've heard that some 50's models used A2 (I think the Seymour Duncan Antiquity is A2).

I don't really know, as this isn't a rabbit hole I particularly want to go down, but I've heard great A2 Precision pickups, great A3 pickups, and great A5 pickups.

Generally speaking, I love 50's Precisions, and 70's Precisions - I'm not at all fixated on 60's instruments, or chasing Jamerson's tone.

I get the impression that V-Mod II pickups are under-wound (I think they're around 9k, although I've seen people claim 11k), which would explain the low output - although I don't find it to be much lower than my StingRay.

If it is under-wound, perhaps the idea was to put the D & G side (A5) in the brighter 1950's ball park (bright and clear = modern, when people are associating dark with vintage - even though 50's is older than 60's), and then in order to get the volume matched, with the tone darker and smoother (ie somewhat more "vintage" than a bright and clear A5) the solution was to use A2 on the E & A side???

I don't know, I'm just speculating, but as someone who likes 50's & 70's pickups, that might explain why I find the V-Mod II interesting, if not ideal (I still haven't decided, if I do end up swapping the pickups, whether to go for a 50's voicing, or play it safe with a 60's voicing).

If you're mostly playing punk & metal, that combo suggests to me late 70's to early 80's - so they would have been using either beat-up 60's Precisions (they weren't collectors items, just cheap used instruments), or fairly new 70's Precisions.

I haven't a clue if the likes of JJ Burnel, Paul Simonon, or Dee Dee Ramone just used their Precisions stock, but I remember during that period that a lot of Metal bassists were finding stock Fender pickups too weak, and swapping them for something more powerful (to compete with the emerging active basses).

Those Seymour Duncan, Bartolini, and EMG pickups are still popular to this day, but I find the whole thing a bit of a minefield - if you're chasing this So called "classic" P-bass tone (because it "sits perfectly in the mix" yadda, yadda) , yet trying to make it sound more powerful, more bass heavy, more snarl, louder etc you're deviating from all the things that made it work so well in the first place.
I agree and as I see it, we are on the same island of thought. For snarl/ louder, I have my Stingray Special. I do appreciate the V-Mod II's and their voicing/why they did the two different pickups---they are still growing on me.

I played this last night and my bass sounded better(to me) than the bassist from Dezerter. Maybe it was my compression or that he was actually using a jazz bass.

I just think the V Mod 2's are not loud enough to compete with other screaming guitars/bass drums in a mix---but, like I said, the Stingray is the tool for that.

There is alot to assess still---like you said.
 
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Fortunately, pre-amps have gain, and a master volume.
My MXR pre amp pedal just distorts when I roll anymore input or output gain, more than 1/4. Same story with the Keeley compressor. This is just using with headphones also, but 90% of the time, that is what I am doing.

Maybe an onboard pre is something to consider too, but then I might as well reach for my Stingray.. :)
 
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