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Noir films and related genres thread

#22
butler said:
Great thread!

Chinatown is probably my fav noir. Amazing story/ script and stellar performances. Roman Polanski with the switchblade is hilarious.

Also anything with Humphey Bogart in it.
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Oh man, I love Chinatown. A must for any noir fan, or really anyone who loves great movies.
 
#23
cdef said:
Detour, from 1945. Great movie. Another oddish production I'd put in the noir category is The Red House, with Edward G. Robinson. Always was impressed by that. Also, Orson Welles' Touch Of Evil.
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If you liked "Detour" check out another flick from that era called "Gun Crazy" I also really like Hitchcock's "Strangers On A Train" the merry go round scene is amazing.
 
#24
Ziltoid said:
The machinist probably qualifies as neo-noir. Low-key lightning, low color saturation and the such. So does most if not all of Von Trier's, Noé's and Lynch's and I like pretty much all they do.
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I think this thread is painting the definition of Film Noir with much too broad a brush. Isn't Film Noir the old detective movies based in L.A. (which were in B&W) and a handful of more recent movies based on that theme? (Chinatown, Blade Runner, etc...)

Film Noir doesn't mean any film that is dark or depressing.

I'm a fan of Lars von Trier and I wouldn't describe anything I've seen of his as anything remotely resembling Film Noir.
 
#25
It's not only a thread about Film Noir per se, as in just hardboiled detective stories based in LA made during the '40s and 50's (although even then private dick movies weren't the only form of Film Noir), but about those films, their predecessors, and also everything since 1960 that is directly or indirectly influenced by them or in some ways reflect the basic jaded and/or nihilistic approach and at least somewhat pertain to the style and atmosphere. This thread, as I have stated, is about Film Noir "and related genres". This does indeed paint with a wide brush, but I think even with this broad acceptance, everyone so far has stuck with the basic layout of my gist.

Think of this discussion being about a broad family tree with the classic films being the trunk.
 
#27
Bloodhammer said:
... Books are also included. You just gotta love a good Hardboiled story.
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The hardboiledest of hardboiled crime novels must be Fast One by Paul Cain (1932). It's a whirlwind of a story, and the grim, minimalist writing in combination with the level of amorality, violence, political intrigue, boozing and wisecracking makes for an almost surreal experience.

ED: The Coens' 1990 film Miller's Crossing surely qualifies as neo-noir.
 
#29
matante said:
I think this thread is painting the definition of Film Noir with much too broad a brush. Isn't Film Noir the old detective movies based in L.A. (which were in B&W) and a handful of more recent movies based on that theme? (Chinatown, Blade Runner, etc...)

Film Noir doesn't mean any film that is dark or depressing.

I'm a fan of Lars von Trier and I wouldn't describe anything I've seen of his as anything remotely resembling Film Noir.
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I have no clue what film noir is. But i thought neo-noir was pretty much... Everything. Haha
 
#40
So many good choices.
The Big Sleep, book and movie
Dark Passage, my favorite Bogart
Yes Bladerunner for sci fi but even more Noir like is Dark City
Any Dashiel Hammet book
Sin City did a remarkable job of capturing noir and comics
Rififi is a classic, so is The Killers
LA Confidential is great
Lock Stock, and 2 Smoking Barrels if we are stretching the definition, it certainly has the look and parts of it have the tone, especially the scenes with the hitman and his son
Who framed Roger Rabbit is surprisingly noir faithful
For parody any of the Naked Gun movies and the absolute best noir sendup is Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
A masterpiece of noir deconstruction is Bukowski's last novel called Pulp
 

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