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NPD: Verellen Meatsmoke Preamp

Nov 17, 2014
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I got this a few days ago from a TB member and am very impressed. It has replaced the B7K I was using. The Darkglass pedals are great too, but the Meatsmoke suits me better. It provides incredible low-end saturation, a very powerful EQ, and great tone. Having two independent channels is also very useful, as it allows for more tonal flexibility (it also takes some of the sting out of the price if you think of it as doing the work of multiple pedals).

I play a couple Ricks (4003 and 4004) through a Mesa Buster 15 combo and I love how they sound, so my goal with the Meatsmoke wasn't to totally change what my gear gives me, but to augment it. To that end I've experimented with the Meatsmoke in several places in the signal chain. Feeding into the Buster's main input generally sounded good and offered 3 distinct sounds, but the boost channel on the Meatsmoke would sometimes get flubby running like this. Using the Meatsmoke as the whole preamp by running it into the effects loop return avoided this problem, but had difficulties of its own. First, it precluded the Buster tone that I love; second, the Meatsmoke (even on high) has a noticeably lower output than the Buster preamp. This surprised me, and I wonder if this could signal a problem with a preamp tube, or if it's due to the effects loop design. Finally, I've been playing with the Meatsmoke in the effects loop, where it is working well provided I leave it on low output. So far, this is the best option. It allows me to have three distinct footswitchable sounds, and the Meatsmoke sounds better in the effects loop than in front of the amp.

All of these observations are somewhat provisional, as I've only had the Meatsmoke for a few days, but it is clear that the Meatsmoke provides amazing tone, and (in the current iteration) outstanding flexibility with its two channels with independent EQ.

Finally, a note on using this for Rick-o-Sound: Feeding the Meatsmoke into the effects loop return of my Mesa Mark II (running into a Powerhouse 12) sounded great as a bridge pickup rig when running in stereo, but the lower Meatsmoke output in that configuration does have me concerned about its ability to keep up with the neck pickup run through the Buster. I'll have to experiment with that more.

Edit: I've sorted the lower output when running into the effects loop return. It was just some dumb user error on my part, not a problem with the Meatsmoke.

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Meatsmoke is awesome! After all the tube / drive pedals I've experimented with, could have bought two Meatsmokes if only I had known... guess I should just sell all the other stuff and get a second one for backup. I run a 12ay7 in position 1 to keep the gain on the lead channel manageable - just want some grit not full-on distortion. That is my main sound now, the lead channel with slight overdrive, pretty much always engaged. Used it on a recording project recently, sounded so good that my guitar player said (only slightly joking) not to show up without it at a gig... I had planned on only using it for recording and higher profile gigs but may need to rethink that. Nothing else gives me the combination of rich deep tone and super defined mids / highs without harshness.
 
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Meatsmoke is awesome! After all the tube / drive pedals I've experimented with, could have bought two Meatsmokes if only I had known... guess I should just sell all the other stuff and get a second one for backup. I run a 12ay7 in position 1 to keep the gain on the lead channel manageable - just want some grit not full-on distortion. That is my main sound now, the lead channel with slight overdrive, pretty much always engaged. Used it on a recording project recently, sounded so good that my guitar player said (only slightly joking) not to show up without it at a gig... I had planned on only using it for recording and higher profile gigs but may need to rethink that. Nothing else gives me the combination of rich deep tone and super defined mids / highs without harshness.

The more I play with the Meatsmoke, the more impressed I am. I think a lot of what sets it apart is that it's a real preamp, rather than drive pedal with an EQ grafted on. I think this design history explains a lot of why it can achieve great tone across a variety of settings.
 
Ben is great to deal with. He listens and is willing to accommodate your ideas

I have a new custom preamp coming, a Meatsmoke Amp, Meatsmoke Hybrid and a Kalaloch. He makes some seriously good stuff

And I don't play stoner or really heavy rock. The Meatsmoke Amp is amazing!
 
Curios how does clean sound on this pre?

I'll let you know when I try it. :bassist: I didn't really get this for clean.

Ok, that's not quite true. I've tried clean a little bit running into the power section of the Buster. It sounded good. Nice 3-D sound with good response across all frequencies. I haven't tried it with a non-tube power section, but I bet it would sound good.
 
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I'll let you know when I try it. :bassist: I didn't really get this for clean.

Ok, that's not quite true. I've tried clean a little bit running into the power section of the Buster. It sounded good. Nice 3-D sound with good response across all frequencies. I haven't tried it with a non-tube power section, but I bet it would sound good.
Seems good if it's got 3D presence. I would intend to use it with classD amp as a Quilter. Good unit's got 2 channels being one for clean and other for drive thus eliminating a pedal.
 
So from what i've gathered this pedal CAN do clean really well?

Absolutely. And they usually come with JJ12ax7s in both tube sockets. Swapping those for low gain, or cleaner preamp tubes makes a huge difference.

Personally a 12au7 bugle boy in V2 was a game changer as it really allows the boost channel to function as a true second channel or as an overdrive if you push it.