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Official Barefaced Bass Cab Club

I made the exact opposite request 2 years ago, I think I was the first customer to ask Alex if he could put the new badge on a bass cab at the time it was only used for guitar cabs, and he accepted…

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It's your fault! :roflmao:

j/k, that cab looks amazing. I like both badges but do lean towards the old one. I really want the Two210st because having that tweeter means I can use them for everything now. I use another great brand cabs for bigger stuff and for a more modern sound. I truly love the barefaced 10s over it though. I'd like the cabs to match so I'll have to consider another grill but I already want a colored baffle to match mine and wasn't expecting to now have to pay for a grill.
 
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Met up with a fellow bassist in central NH, he wanted to hear a BB3 in person. I have a feeling Alex will see a request for another one of these very soon!

I am not affiliated with Barefaced, just one of their biggest fans and a supporter of all things that makes bassists better.

If you are in central NH and have a gig coming up I'd be happy to try and meet to if you would like to demo an incredible cab.
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If you are in the MA/ME/NH area I have shows almost every weekend and would be happy to have you as a pre-gig guest. Show up early, bring a bass, plug in and hear the cabs dry (depending on the show it'll either be through a Genzler MG800 or an EA iAMP Classic 1200).
 
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Met up with a fellow bassist in central NH, he wanted to hear a BB3 in person. I have a feeling Alex will see a request for another one of these very soon!

DavidJamesNHBass, thanks for coming out! The BB3 sounded stellar, very beefy, loved it. Yes, I see a BB3 in my future, I believe a big baby and super midget stack would be a formidable force!
 
Unfortunately we didn't stack my midget under/over David's BB3, that would have been smart since that's the route I might be headed. Once we plugged in the BB3 I think I realized that would be mostly a one cab solution for me, and would only need the super midget added for big stage situations. I guess if we had time we could have done that, but the rest of the band was showing up for the gig...
Size-wise, the new bb3 is shallower than before, and actually seems like a better stacking option depth-wise. I think other folks have stacked a big baby with a super midget, but I have not seen a pic. Scientifically I believe Alex approves of those two cabs as a stack.
 
I played a large venue a couple of weeks ago, where I normally use my Six 10 with an Aguilar DB751. The room has excellent FOH assistance and a competent sound engineer. This time I took the BB2 with the Super Midget on top, powered by my Bergantino Forte HP. I did not think I had the volume particularly loud on stage, just sufficient to hear myself over a powerful drummer. We are not a quiet band, but the sound guy told me he did not need to put any bass through the DI as the two Barefaced cabs carried the room easily. As well as giving credit to Barefaced here I should also praise the Berg Forte HP which, with its many downloadable options, added the character to the tone which the BF twelve cabs presented so well.
 
The important thing here is that a good match comes with the 210T (which is an 8 ohm cab). In general, the TT is a poor match for any 4 ohm 210 due to the limited mechanical power handling of 210 cabs.
To be clear: the quote is totally out of kontekst and is not about Barefaced cabs. but it made me think.
When the specs of the Two10s says "Max power 800W RMS" does that mean that "i can not damage the cab with an amp that gives 800W in 4Ohms, even if i am stupid"?
 
To be clear: the quote is totally out of kontekst and is not about Barefaced cabs. but it made me think.
When the specs of the Two10s says "Max power 800W RMS" does that mean that "i can not damage the cab with an amp that gives 800W in 4Ohms, even if i am stupid"?

No. Feed most bass cabs 800 watts of 20hz and will be pushed beyond their mechanical power handling. You'll hit xMax and damage the driver pretty fast.
 
In this case i would not only be stupid, it seams i would be trying to break the cab.

The bass controls on many active basses are shelving - so boosting all frequencies below their target frequency. It is quite easy via amp and bass EQ to feed a cab a ton of low end that they cannot handle if one isn't careful. Just getting careless with EQ can cook a cab.
 
The bass controls on many active basses are shelving - so boosting all frequencies below their target frequency. It is quite easy via amp and bass EQ to feed a cab a ton of low end that they cannot handle if one isn't careful. Just getting careless with EQ can cook a cab.
So the takeaway is; it does not matter, there is no idiot proof solution. Any 800W+ amp is well suited, even for the One10, you just have to be carefull?
 
I'm not sure. Agedhorse said in another thread that some cab don't give signs of suffering and might burn before you realize there's a problem.

This is very true - we found this to an extreme degree with one very unusual prototype driver we had made. That speaker used an XBL2 motor, with split gap and short voice coil so it could do massive clean excursion but it didn't have enough voice coil area to get rid of all the heat at high power. During testing we blew three drivers without them even distorting, they sounded really good, went super loud and then started smoking and suddenly cut out. The fourth driver was saved and went off to be a recording studio cab. The 3015LF was a bit like this too, though to a much lesser degree, otherwise they wouldn't be such popular speakers.

The way I see if, when it comes to making a driver robust you need to have a big enough gap between Xmax amd Xlim (aka Xmech) and enough thermal power handling to allow you to exceed Xmax without thermal failure.

Xmax is the point where the driver reaches 10% distortion (due to over-excursion making the magnetic force and/or the suspension non-linear). Xlim is the point where the speaker is damaged - cone creasing, buckled voice coil former, stretched/warped suspension, etc. My pre-Barefaced cabs didn't have enough margin between Xmax and Xlim so the cones got creased when they were pushed too hard.

So we've done our best at Barefaced to make cabs that you can push hard without worrying about blowing them. With the 12XN cabs you can just follow the power ratings - the 12XN very obviously goes from clean to (not very pretty) distortion when you push it too hard. With the 10CR cabs it's a bit harder to tell so here's a deeper explanation: 10CR power handling
 
Funny thing with these tens. Sat. Night during the 3rd set my 2 One Tens were distorting like I had a fuzz pedal engaged. I was using a Berg Forte HP amp and a Sadowsky Jazz bass. I'm on in ears so I'm only hearing a little of my rig. I thought it was the rhythm guitarist's amp making the distortion. At the end of the night he said I think there's something wrong with your amp-sounds like you blew a speaker. When we were tearing down I plugged back in, turned my rig on and everything sounded fine. So, was the amp clipping or were the speakers just being overdriven? Everything's still loaded on the truck as we're out on a mini tour next weekend. I'll see if I can get my rig unloaded and try it this week. The distortion only lasted for half of a song.
 
This is very true - we found this to an extreme degree with one very unusual prototype driver we had made. That speaker used an XBL2 motor, with split gap and short voice coil so it could do massive clean excursion but it didn't have enough voice coil area to get rid of all the heat at high power. During testing we blew three drivers without them even distorting, they sounded really good, went super loud and then started smoking and suddenly cut out. The fourth driver was saved and went off to be a recording studio cab. The 3015LF was a bit like this too, though to a much lesser degree, otherwise they wouldn't be such popular speakers.

The way I see if, when it comes to making a driver robust you need to have a big enough gap between Xmax amd Xlim (aka Xmech) and enough thermal power handling to allow you to exceed Xmax without thermal failure.

Xmax is the point where the driver reaches 10% distortion (due to over-excursion making the magnetic force and/or the suspension non-linear). Xlim is the point where the speaker is damaged - cone creasing, buckled voice coil former, stretched/warped suspension, etc. My pre-Barefaced cabs didn't have enough margin between Xmax and Xlim so the cones got creased when they were pushed too hard.

So we've done our best at Barefaced to make cabs that you can push hard without worrying about blowing them. With the 12XN cabs you can just follow the power ratings - the 12XN very obviously goes from clean to (not very pretty) distortion when you push it too hard. With the 10CR cabs it's a bit harder to tell so here's a deeper explanation: 10CR power handling

I was told there'd be no math! ;-)
 
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All I know is I just plugged this rig in and played for a bit at a reasonably loud volume to "break it in". Now every picture in my house is crooked and things have fallen off shelves. My ears are ringing a bit too. Should have used some ear protection.

Sorry for the picture being blurry. Don't know why my phone didn't focus properly.

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Oh, and DO NOT rest any type of liquid on top of anything of value while playing.
I watched more than a few adult beverages dance their way off counters, shelves and tables during Saturday's show in a club in Manchester, NH. No one could figure out why I was smiling so much...sort of like the 'Real Napster' scene at the end of "The Italian Job". Little did the crowd know the possibility of flying clothing was just a volume knob twist away.