Phrase Trainer Recommendations

Discussion in 'Effects [BG]' started by 57pbass, Jun 23, 2020.

  1. 57pbass

    57pbass Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Bayside, New York
    I am looking for recommendations for a device, app or software that will allow me to select a section of a song, loop it, slow it down while maintaining pitch and any other features that will assist..There’s a whole bunch of solos I would like to learn and this would be a great tool for me..

    Thank you.
     
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  2. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    I use Song Surgeon, very happy with it. (I've only really scratched the surface of what it can do, though.)
     
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  3. 57pbass

    57pbass Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Bayside, New York
     
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  4. bholder

    bholder Affable Sociopath Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Sep 2, 2001
    Vestal, NY
    Received a gift from Sire* (see sig)
    It's not cheap, but it's worth it, imho, seems to do everything pretty well, and easy enough for me to use.
     
  5. StevieMac

    StevieMac

    Mar 17, 2005
    Vancouver, BC
    Super slowdowner works for me it was $50 if I recall correctly.
     
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  6. Tascam stand alone Bass/Guitar trainer
     
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  7. Rob Canham

    Rob Canham

    Oct 23, 2014
    Audacity for Windows is great for this. It can change tempo without changing pitch, can also change pitch without changing tempo which is ideal if you're too lazy to change tunings.
     
  8. bearhart74

    bearhart74

    Feb 26, 2009
    Transcribe
     
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  9. Dynacord

    Dynacord

    Jan 1, 2005
    What I use. Sure wish I had access to something like that when I was just starting out.
     
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  10. 57pbass

    57pbass Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Bayside, New York
    Thanks..
     
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  11. Grahams Groove

    Grahams Groove Never succinct... Supporting Member

    Apr 13, 2001
    Mountains
    I think they're talking about the software, which is called Transcribe!
     
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  12. 57pbass

    57pbass Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Bayside, New York
    Thank you for pointing that out to me.
     
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  13. Rapisme

    Rapisme Supporting Member

    Dec 5, 2007
    NYC
    Anytune.
     
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  14. TheReceder

    TheReceder

    Jul 12, 2010
  15. Joshua Pickenpaugh

    Joshua Pickenpaugh Supporting Member

    Apr 16, 2001
    ICT
    Ditto on amazing slow downer. The iPhone app is great and allows you to use songs from your Spotify playlists.
     
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  16. bfields

    bfields

    Apr 9, 2015
    Ann Arbor, MI
    Bear with me here, but: youtube.

    That's how bandmates usually share songs to cover these days anyway. You can adjust speed without changing pitch. It doesn't support looping, but you can do a hacky approximation with some careful mouse positioning. The keyboard shortcuts come in very handy: Keyboard shortcuts for YouTube - YouTube Help

    OK, to be honest, if it gets too complicated, I move to Transcribe. But for anything quick, I stay in youtube. And as time goes on I've found myself staying there longer....
     
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  17. 57pbass

    57pbass Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Bayside, New York
  18. TheReceder

    TheReceder

    Jul 12, 2010
    Yep, if you look to the right of that screen I posted, the start, and end points set where to loop, and if you check the loop box it'll go till you hit the stop button. If something stumps me, I'll move the speed slider to slow it down. I'm also in a band that does a lot of things in odd keys. The program allows you to change the pitch, and save the file in the different key.

    Again, the trial is free if that's a selling point. My guess is there are a lot of programs that do the same thing, this is just the one I found when I was looking.

    One really good thing about these programs, if you're learning a song where the bass is so buried in the mix that you can't make out what they're playing, you can bump the pitch up an octave, and effectively eliminate a lot of the other instruments in the mix. The bass will then really stand out, (as an irritating kind of tinny sound, but easy to pick out.)
     
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  19. 57pbass

    57pbass Supporting Member

    Aug 1, 2004
    Bayside, New York
    Excellent..thanks
     
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  20. mdlewis

    mdlewis Supporting Member

    Jan 1, 2005
    Boston Metro
    I have been long-time users of both Transcribe and Amazing Slow Downer. I can highly recommend these over just about any other software or hardware I have tried. They have different strengths.

    For slowing down and pitch shifting multiple exercises and songs, ASD is better. Useful if you're practicing multiple exercises for example. I use ASD for primarily practicing. Customer support is good.

    For transcribing, not surprisingly, Transcribe is preferable. It does most of what ASD does, albeit on a single file, but also importantly allows you to visually annotate this file as to sections, measures, and beats. This is very helpful when transcribing a song. For really difficult to transcribe passages, one can mark off the measures, visually set to the program to cycle between the desired positions, EQ to pop the bass, slow down the playback, bring the pitch up an octave and set it to a standard key, and adjust the channels (both, either, balance, out of phase). This pops the bass line right out and you can explore the relationship of the line to the beat structure at your leisure.

    Both are relatively inexpensive.
     
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