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PJ versus dual P

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That sounds like it would do the trick. I looked up pricing for two plus a BQC pre and went :eek: - about $400 for the entire set! I have some projects in the works now so this might be something I tackle next year.

Really do appreciate the suggestion though as I had another thread specifically for this but haven't come up with any inspiring solutions yet until this.

Raz
 
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That sounds like it would do the trick. I looked up pricing for two plus a BQC pre and went :eek: - about $400 for the entire set! I have some projects in the works now so this might be something I tackle next year.

Really do appreciate the suggestion though as I had another thread specifically for this but haven't come up with any inspiring solutions yet until this.

Raz
My suggestion: Get the P5s and wait on the BQC. See what the pickups alone (with their included tone controls) can do.
 
I keep going around and around what I might want out of a dual P setup. The variability of where everyone places the pickups contributes to the difficulty in deciding. I’ve done a lot of work with photos to try and work out pickup placements as best as I can, and listened to a lot of YouTube examples where I could find them. Maybe this will help others if I share it.

For me, it boils down to a few choices - all centered around the fact that I really want the original Precision pickup in its original location. Not many makers keep this - many seem to move the Precision EA coil to the front 60’s Jazz Bass location. (Alien Audio do this, for instance.)

Turns out the old BC Rich Basses - the Eagle and Mockingbird - kept the P pickup in its original location, though they sometimes changed the orientation of the coils. And the rear pickup, from what I can tell, either has the centerline between the halves on the 60’s Jazz Bass rest pickup position, or the coil of the front part of the P pickup on that line. So finding audio of those basses is helpful, at least to some degree. I’ve gone looking for Precisions and others as well when I can find them.

Here’s what I think the sonic choices end up being, depending on pickup orientation.

1. Dual P, non- reversed.

Front pickup sounds familiar on its own. Rear pickup sounds a little thinner on DG strings, but absolutely magnificent mixed in with the front. IMO

(This video flips between Eagle and Mockingbird - different P orientations)











2. Dual P, reversed.

The front pickup sounds Precision-ish, and perhaps better balanced between strings, but it sounds to me more like a modern humbucker overall at the front and also the rear position. The rear pickup sounds more balanced on its own as well. It’s a great sound, and I like it, but it kind of stops having a Precision character in some ways, at least to me. More like a modern double humbucker bass. Others I’m certain will disagree. But that’s my take.

https://youtu.be/H9V8E7X7QQg





3. Front P pickup non-reversed, rear P pickup reversed.

Not a lot of these out there. Mainly Warwicks. Alien Audio as well, but I haven’t included video from them as the P pickup is shifted forwards a bit into Jazz coil position. This I thought was my solution, but I’m less sure now than I was. The front pickup on its own sounds typical Precision, the rear pickup on its own sounds balanced, but the blend is interesting. Jazzish on the EA strings and Stingray-esque on the DG strings.





https://youtu.be/cosmaeHQSsQ

I’m still making up my own mind. If anyone has other audio samples to add, WITH the front P pickup still in the usual position (either reversed or non reversed), I’d love to hear them.
 
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The double Ps I played all sounded better and beefier with the neck pickup alone.
Using both pickups full scoops the tone right where the P has its usual mid bump.
The bridge P alone either sounds muddy but without punch or plonky with no sustain depending if it's too close or too far from the bridge.
If it can work, I have yet to experience it.
 
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The double Ps I played all sounded better and beefier with the neck pickup alone.
Using both pickups full scoops the tone right where the P has its usual mid bump.
The bridge P alone either sounds muddy but without punch or plonky with no sustain depending if it's too close or too far from the bridge.
If it can work, I have yet to experience it.

I hear you. I’m thinking when I get to this, it’s probably going to work like a PJ often does - the J is ‘spice’ to the P.

Check out the Johnny Long ‘Hobo Dual P 5 string’ video I posted though. There is something in the sound there I am hooked on. That video is the reason I’m chasing this at all in the first place. It’s just awesome.
 

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