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PJ's do not bring a jazz bass tone. get over it

Discussion in 'Basses [BG]' started by jellymax, Apr 7, 2020.


  1. jellymax

    jellymax Don't fry any wooden fish Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SF CA
    a good set of jazz pickups delivers a burpy tone. a pj cannot deliver it.
    i have 1 pj. when i use it, the bridge pick up is off, even though its a good
    one it does not improve the sound or clarity. p only is a killer, usefull tone.
    but the two are different. you cannot get a burpy jazz bass tone from a pj.

    go ahead and bring the heat. i can take it lol
     
  2. fretter

    fretter

    May 24, 2012
    PA
    Why is that? I don't disagree.
     
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  3. Chad Michael

    Chad Michael Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2001
    Pacific Northwest USA
    A PJ can sound terribly good, credit Pedulla / Bartolini / and, most of all, Doug.

     
  4. If your P-style pickup is wired in parallel or has a series/parallel switch, it can get closer.
     
  5. Fenwick

    Fenwick

    Dec 9, 2012
    Montreal
    Then why do you have a PJ? That poor single-coil is dying a lonely, quiet death.

    My Warwick Streamer LX4 is a P(reversed)J and it sounds very burpy to my ears, I pretty much play it exclusively on the blend between the P and J.
     
  6. bikeplate

    bikeplate Supporting Member

    Jun 7, 2001
    Upstate NY
    Love my pj basses
     
  7. lowphatbass

    lowphatbass **** Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    west coast
    In agreement here...although a PJ does come closer to a straight J than a straight J comes to a straight P.
     
  8. FRoss6788

    FRoss6788 Supporting Member

    Mar 25, 2012
    Santa Cruz Mountains
    My guess is you don't have well matched pickups.
    No, it's not going to sound just like a standard J, no surprise there, but a well matched PJ set has a lot of useful tones (including burpy) on tap.
     
  9. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    If you cannot get a burpy sound out a soloed J pickup on a PJ bass, your bass has issues. I have never had a trouble getting a burpy tone out of a soloed J pickup on a PJ bass.
     
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  10. jellymax

    jellymax Don't fry any wooden fish Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SF CA
    the clarity of a p is good. dulled by mixing in another pickup, not so much
     
  11. jellymax

    jellymax Don't fry any wooden fish Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SF CA
    most pj's have the j pickup back further than i like lol. 60's location is more usable lol
     
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  12. jellymax

    jellymax Don't fry any wooden fish Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SF CA
    perhaps burpy is the wrong adjective. whats the sound of a J called?
     
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  13. lowphatbass

    lowphatbass **** Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    west coast
    I was thinking that “fat burp” that you only get with 2 singles.
     
  14. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Are you talking about the sound of a Jazz bridge pickup soloed or the sound of two Jazz pickups? A PJ will never get true Jazz Bass tone.
     
  15. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    Most people referred to the JJ tone as “scooped,” not burpy. Scoop refers to the relative lack of mids on a Jazz while the bass and treble are dominant. Any bass with a split pickup in the sweet spot with have lots of mids, especially slightly lower mids. That is why a Precision slap tone is totally unlike a Jazz.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2020
  16. jellymax

    jellymax Don't fry any wooden fish Supporting Member

    Nov 29, 2006
    SF CA
    the sound of two together is what i am talking about
     
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  17. Chad Michael

    Chad Michael Supporting Member

    Sep 19, 2001
    Pacific Northwest USA
    Dr. Cheese, the voice of reason, has played a bass or two, or hundred... Listen to him <c:
     
  18. Inara

    Inara Fierce Fun Fretless Female Supporting Member

    Jun 12, 2017
    Seattle, WA USA
    I don't play a PJ to get a jazz tone. I play one to get broader tonal options, with the P pickup as the starting point. I've never liked the "both J pickups on full" sound anyway. If I did want that, though, yeah, I'd get a jazz. I don't think anyone really thinks they can get that scooped, thinner "both J's" sound from a PJ anyway though. A PJ is its own thing, with its own range of sounds. If they are sounds that work for you, cool. If not, cool.
     
  19. lowphatbass

    lowphatbass **** Supporting Member

    Feb 25, 2005
    west coast
    I feel ya.
    Both pickups on full, tone open and right hand over the bridge pup with some assertiveness....I say there’s something “burpy” there that you don’t get with a solo’d bridge pup.
     
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  20. Dr. Cheese

    Dr. Cheese Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 3, 2004
    Metro St. Louis
    I think I know what you mean.
     
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