Pole Piece location and the effect on tone? Or something else?

Discussion in 'Pickups & Electronics [BG]' started by RadioactiveGuy4, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. Ok TB I have two Modern Player Jazz Basses. The sunburst is the first production run.


    The white is the second production run.


    These bass sound different from each other particularly in the mids and highs. Not dramatically different but enough that I prefer the sunburst tone to the white one.

    The biggest different that I can think of that would effect the tone would be the difference in pick ups. The pole pieces on the sunburst are basically directly under the strings white the white bass the pole pieces are in between the strings

    My question is do the location of pole pieces effect the tone of the bass or is it something else?
  2. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    The ones on the white one aren't even real pole pieces. They're fake & under there are blade pickups.

    I tried a white one like yours in burst finish. Loved it, so I ordered one with a burst finish, but it showed up with the pickups like in your photo above (the white one).
    Didn't like the change at all & returned it. The other issue was the truss rod wheel wouldn't turn.
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  3. Well that may be the answer right there. I did not know that the satin one had blades. Honestly I want to just swap the pickups out but no one makes after market pickups for these basses.
  4. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

  5. I guess that gives me another search option but my guess would be that the pick ups coming up for sale by themselves would be a rare occurrence
  6. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    Once upon a time it wasn't that difficult to find Blacktop pickups on Reverb or eBay, but not today.
  7. I'm going to add blacktop pickups to my google search alerts and keep my fingers crossed. Thanks for the great info. I am slightly more hopeful than when i started this thread.
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  8. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    Just be aware there are two types of Blacktops & their nomenclature is confusing, because the Precision Blacktop has two Jazz humbuckers & the Jazz Blacktop had two Precision pickups :smug:

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  9. ctmullins

    ctmullins Dominated Gold Supporting Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    MS Gulf Coast
    I'm highly opinionated and extremely self-assured
    Sentell Pickups bass guitar pickups

    Scroll down past halfway and look at B05, B12, and B22.

    Others make them too, I just can’t remember where I’ve seen them...
  10. That B05 looks promising. Thanks for the lead. I'm also checking into any local options for pickups as well.
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  11. Killed_by_Death

    Killed_by_Death Snaggletooth Inactive

    The first one is a pickup just like what is used in the Blacktop, right down to the yellow wrapper.

    Normally bridge & neck pickups are paired so that they hum cancel, one being reverse wound.

    Since they're both humbuckers, that shouldn't matter, but the size does. I'm not sure if the bridge pickup is longer than the neck pickup.
    Sometimes they are to accommodate the narrowing of the stings as they approach the nut.

    The 4-wire pickup also lets you wire it in parallel, which could be a nice way to balance the pickup outputs, in case that 2-wire pickup is lower output.