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PYPB 44: ...like Tetris with boxes, wires and cables
- Thread starter Jean Baudin
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Sounds cool, but 200 is more than i'd like to spend on an envelope filter.
But what if we told you it is also an Octaver and a fuzz plus every envelope filter you can dream of? How much would you pay then? Sorry could not resist the infomercial pitch.
That SV-Pre is nice and creamy! I keep mine near the very end too, just before delay/verb.
Here's this weeks rebuild after just getting the OCD (v4) & Polytope (love this thing!!!)
**holds hands up**
"And now dere's zis, which ahhh... just kinda kicks every other pedal in de butt, I guess"
@5.19 haha
After seeing that video my Qtron might soon be up for sale
Latest version; added a Latent Lemon Brassmaster. Sounds awesome already with a small amp, will be tested in a band setting this evening 
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Source Audio has a very powerful free editing program called Neuro App for phone or other portable device or an even more desktop [Invalid or Expired Link Removed] that allows users to access the user database of shared patches ,store creations and access every parameter for deep editing. You can download it now to check it out along with the users manuals for all their available products. There is a very active and helpful community as well as the owners and employees are very engaged with their customers which is a huge plus.
I've got the C4 Synth, which uses the same software.
The Source Audio pedals are crazy deep and feature rich.
OK....hopefully last iteration for a while, but we all know nothing is eternal. Tried it at band practice and it worked out quite well.
The Zoom MS60B is used for 2 patches: CLEAN (rack comp) and OD (rack comp > Bass BB), allowing to maximize effects options on the GT-1B. So far, I'm using the 8x10 stack patch (SVT tone) and 3 effects switched ON/OFF by the unit's pedal (bass wah) and the FS-7 switches (reverb and chorus). This set-up makes it very gig-usable, no more tip-toeing than with dedicated pedals. I'll probably create other patches depending on how the set-list evolves.
EDIT: experimenting with the GT-1B into an LS-2, just for kicks.
The Zoom MS60B is used for 2 patches: CLEAN (rack comp) and OD (rack comp > Bass BB), allowing to maximize effects options on the GT-1B. So far, I'm using the 8x10 stack patch (SVT tone) and 3 effects switched ON/OFF by the unit's pedal (bass wah) and the FS-7 switches (reverb and chorus). This set-up makes it very gig-usable, no more tip-toeing than with dedicated pedals. I'll probably create other patches depending on how the set-list evolves.
EDIT: experimenting with the GT-1B into an LS-2, just for kicks.
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I call it..
"just the "essentials""
Nice! Have you found the Octave works better before the Accountant rather than after? I'll have to check out the Mr Black brand pedals. Haven't heard those yet.
Seems great, but I'm just not into that stuff. I prefer all the options to be on the pedal itself. I'd rather have 20 knobs than a usb port. I'm not sure why I feel that way - I just do. Also, at some point, that software support will go away and at some point, that software will no longer function on a current os. And then you're back to knobs only.
and the sun will stop to shine....How's that working out with your Curtis Mathis Lifetime In Home Repair Warranty Console Television, BetaMax or 8Trak player? Technology marches on....
What Source Audio did with the C4 is a true wonder, maybe it ain't your kind of gadget but no need to dump a bucket of sludge on it. They gave us a virtual wall of synth modules we can create sounds and control by plugging in our bass or guitar.
But then again you're right it ain't a Pbass with flats into a fliptop.
Thanks! I think the OC2 works better before based on how I like to set the compressor. It works well after too if you're only using the mildest settings on the comp. I only use the accountant as a slap boost or a gritty very noticeable heavy handed compression, which sounds super cool after the oc2 like that. And Mr. Black is the business, the fwonkbeta is the most musical envelope filter I've tried to date, and there isn't a bad sound in it.
Adamixoye
A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?
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Chicken or egg with the Aeros - I couldn't really explore it until I put it in my setup, but I couldn't put it in my setup until I knew how it would work because I play live almost every week. Anyway, I broke down and just did it. I'm still figuring out the Aeros, there are things I love and things I don't love, but it's going to work for the immediate future.
Wow - Enzo, Zoia, what I think is a rehoused Future Impact, and also a C4. I had been looking at getting the first three and ended up with just the C4. Since you seem to have found good use for all of them, can you tell us a little bit about each of their strengths vs the others (or just what you're mainly using each for)?
and the sun will stop to shine....How's that working out with your Curtis Mathis Lifetime In Home Repair Warranty Console Television, BetaMax or 8Trak player? Technology marches on....
What Source Audio did with the C4 is a true wonder, maybe it ain't your kind of gadget but no need to dump a bucket of sludge on it. They gave us a virtual wall of synth modules we can create sounds and control by plugging in our bass or guitar.
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But then again you're right it ain't a Pbass with flats into a fliptop.
Technology marches on indeed, but again - analog pedals can be serviced by someone even if the company goes out of business. I don't really base my pedal purchasing decisions on that very much, and if the price of the Source Audio were the same as any other filter pedal, I'd not think about it at all. But of course it is more expensive (as it should be with all the extra stuff it can do). All I'm saying is that I'm not keen on spending an extra hundred dollars on a product which is priced higher for something that's going to be outdated in a decade or so. Not sure how simply saying this is dumping 'a bucket of sludge on it', especially when I've already said it sounds great.
As to a P Bass with flats into a fliptop - that's not my thing at all. Tried a P with flats and didn't end up liking it compared to my Tobias Growler which, by the way, puts me in a very similar position as my concern about the Source Audio pedal - that pickup and its electronics are so weird and rare that if anything goes wrong with it, it would be a potential problem to try and fix.
You're definitely right though - technology moves on, but with software, that stuff moves on a lot faster than most technology. I have pedals on my board that I've had for over 20 years. I'm sure plenty of people have pedals a lot older than that. If that Source Audio pedal had been bought at the same time, it would have been designed around Windows XP or something and by now that part of the pedal would be completely unusable. That's my only point.
Adamixoye
A PT Pro is cool for worship, right?
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For context, this is my all-encompassing combo guitar/bass board for church stuff and messing around at home.
When I play guitar live, literally every week I'm using the Compressor, Multidrive, ZOIA, one or both H9s, and the Nemesis for delay. On bass, the only *absolutely every week* pedals are the Compressor, ZOIA, and B7KU. The Beat Buddy is an "every week" pedal when I'm the bandleader, which is most weeks. The Terminal in the upper left corner is also critical to my routing.
The tier down from there is the Drop, Heavy, Nano, and Reflex, which get very rare use but do have specific uses for specific songs.
The weird synth stuff (+ Aftershock and Mel9) is mostly for at home, though I've dabbled in using the FI live on bass.
But, a brief breakdown:
- I'm still very new to the C4, tracks great but I don't have a lot of presets on it. I can see interesting uses for it on both guitar and bass.
- Like I said, I've dabbled with using the FI live. Doesn't fit a ton of our songs but I've tried! Overall the FI's strength is fat mono synth bass sounds. Tracks great for me, I would have said it is the best out there but in my limited use with the C4 it's right there and possibly better.
- The ZOIA is, bizarrely enough, my always-on, MIDI-controlled custom noise gate. I don't really use it for synth stuff. But I have created a hard square wave tremolo patch that works better than anything I can do on the H9s because of the way I can sync it to my Beat Buddy (and how I can turn it off with the single aux switch in the bottom left corner), I use this for one specific song. I've also created a "slow gear" type of patch that I use on another specific song. There's a lot more I could/want to do with it if I had time.
- Enzo - it's more of a weird noise maker to me. I don't see a lot of use live for its weird arpeggio stuff. I came up with a really good pad type of patch once but I lost it. When I have time I'm going to recreate that and that's something I would use live.
Apologies my bass friend I did fly off the proverbial handle a bit at your expense. I can concede you argument on many points, and in many ways even agree. However to my thinking if I continue to get 5 years of sheer pleasure and creativity from the C4 for the $240.00 it has more than made up for the cost and I am to say the least a very frugal fellow. I hope that Source Audio is still around and supporting the product in some way but if not there will have been something new even more exciting to take it's place.
FWIW I have an air gapped pc running Xp in my studio running many legacy studio DAWS and mastering programs that I can never afford to update as well as a large collection of vintage instruments and effects. But that does not keep me from appreciating the significant and affordable advances in digital music making that afford me the access to virtual gear that I would never afford in the real world.
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