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question about Eden D210XST cab

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Stonefly

Mar 17, 2009
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Southwest Montana
#1
Hi folks,
I'm in the process of putting together my first bass rig. I picked up a Peavey Cirrus BXP off TB, and an SWR Bass 350 head from TB as well. Now I'm looking for a cabinet. The SWR head is 350 watts at 4ohms, and 450 watts at 2ohms. My local music store has a used Eden D210XST cabinet at a decent price, but I'm not sure if it's going to work with my head. I've read the FAQ at the top of this forum, but I think i need some clarification. The Eden cabinet is the 500w, 8ohm version. Do I understand it correctly that if I pair that with my SWR head it will end up being half as powerful as the 4ohm version? Is it even possible to pair an 8ohm cab with a 4ohm head? Any advice you guys might be able to give would be appreciated. I'm not stuck on this particular Eden cabinet, and I want to make sure I don't blow my amp by getting something that isn't compatible.
Thanks!
 
#2
Your 4ohm head will work fine with TWO 8 ohm cabs. I'm not sure that you will get enough of a 'power' difference with the 8ohm vs 4ohm, but you might end up pushing your head pretty hard to get good volume out of just one 8ohm.
With a head that goes down to 2ohm you can have 4 8ohm cabs, 2 8ohm and 1 4ohm or 2 4ohm cabs. If you are going to stick with just one cab for a while, as much as I love my XST, you might be better suited going for a 4 ohm.
Best thing though....go try it and see, but it will not hurt your head to run an 8 ohm cab. More than 2 4ohm cabs and you will see smoke! (less than 2ohm total load).
FWIW, the XST is a very efficient cab and you might find that you get more percevied volume out the 8ohm XST vs a different 4ohm cab.
Good luck and happy thumping!:bassist:
 
#3
Thanks! I think i will take my gear down there and check it out. I really like Eden gear, and kind of like the idea of a smaller, lighter cab. One more question about watts..... does the wattage of a cab, for instance the 500w designation of this Eden cab, mean that that is the maximum watts you can send to it, or does that mean that's how many watts it pulls?
 
#4
How many watts it can handle, in theory. Not a very useful number really. There is great debate about "under powering" a cab. Do you know what wattage your head gives at 8ohms? That is what I meant by pushing your head hard. You will have to give it as much volume as you can in order to get the most out of the XST and that might strain your head. If you are looking for light and portable you might look more towards a 4ohm cab. 8ohm is great if you are eventually going to add more cabs (8ohmXST and 8ohmXLT would be great for that head), but if you want to use one and get the most out of it 4ohm will be best. I have been using the XST (4ohm) by itself for a while now and the XLT is probably better as a stand alone as the XST is a little scooped in the mids. Don't get me wrong though the XST is an incredible cab, but may not be your best option. MY amp put out 350W at 4ohms and I had no problem getting GREAT volume and sound out of the XST. When I added my 4ohm SWR I was able to get the full 700W at 2ohms and it was plenty loud for most gigs. My guess is your head does 225-250W@8ohms and that might not be enough to get the most out of the XST. Try and see though!
 
#5
Stonefly said:
One more question about watts..... does the wattage of a cab, for instance the 500w designation of this Eden cab, mean that that is the maximum watts you can send to it, or does that mean that's how many watts it pulls?
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The 500 watts is supposedly the thermal rating that the voice coils of the drivers can handle. It's a common misconception that cabs "pull" wattage from an amp based of the cab's wattage rating - A solid state amp sends a fixed amount of power to a cab/cabs based on the load (impedance) it sees.

The thermal rating is usually much higher than the displacement limit anyway, which is the amount of wattage speakers can handle before reaching the end of their cone travel - that's why you can blow speakers with much lower wattage than their advertised wattage rating.
 
#6
Hello i have had both pieces of gear and i agree with Medloticy that if you plan on getting another 8 ohm cab. to add later you would be alright with the 8 ohm eden,but if you want to keep your rig small go with one 4 ohm cab. try not to run your swr in 2 ohm's if you can help it the Swr amp run's hot enough on there own without putting any more strain on them 4 ohm's is perfect.i won't run any amp at 2 ohm's even if they are rated to do so.
 

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