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Question about mesa heads

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by Visirale, Jun 23, 2008.

  1. Jun 23, 2008 #1
    Visirale

    Visirale

    Mar 23, 2003
    Orlando
    Is it just me or do all of them seem to get their claimed power at 2 ohms with a substantial drop off at 4 ohms and 8 ohms?

    I really wouldn't mind getting a mesa head, but I really want the power they claim at 2 ohms at 4, and 4 ohms at 8. I can understand why some people would want a 2 ohm load, but when a lot of their big cabs are 4 ohm load (powerhouse 1000, 810, 412) it would seem to me they'd make a head capable of putting out a stronger output at 4 ohms (and smaller than the V12).

    Am I missing something?
     
  2. Jun 23, 2008 #2
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    The m-pulse 600 puts out as much power at 4 ohms as I would ever need, and I play in loud rock bands. Mesa are loud heads.

    I just picked up a titan, but I got it for the OD and channel switching, not the power. In fact, if I end up digging it I'll have to change my cabs out to an 8 ohm 2x12 since the titan has so much juice. Titan front end with a m-pulse 600 power section would be plenty for me.
     
  3. Jun 23, 2008 #3
    Visirale

    Visirale

    Mar 23, 2003
    Orlando
    Hmm, that helps. I've always wondered about the m-pulse. They call it their "value" head which made me a little wary, but I guess when your heads cost A WHOLE LOT, "value" is purely a term, haha. The M-pulse 600 looks to be about the wattage I'm looking for. Pretty much the same output as my LMII (a little more) but with some tone shaping apabilities.

    I'm thinking of getting another powerhouse 212 so I'll end up with 4 12s and 4 ohms. Should make for a pretty killer rig.

    Thanks for the info.
     
  4. Jun 23, 2008 #4
    lowfreek

    lowfreek In Memoriam

    Nov 2, 2006
    Central New York
    I also play on a pretty loud stage -- heavy handed drummer, two guitars... you know. I've never had trouble punching through EASILY with either a 4 ohm 410 or an 8 ohm 410 and my M-Pulse, and I don't think I've ever had the master past 20% volume. I don't mean to discount your power question, you may be perfectly correct, but I've always felt Mesa's ratings were conservative.
     
  5. Jun 23, 2008 #5
    lowfreek

    lowfreek In Memoriam

    Nov 2, 2006
    Central New York
    An M-Pulse 600 and two PH212's will bark beyond your wildest imagination.
     
  6. Jun 23, 2008 #6
    fishtx

    fishtx

    Mar 30, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    Endorsing Artist: Genzler Amplification/Spector Basses/Mojo Hand FX
    Mesa power ratings are typically very conservative. I spoke with them about the M-Pulse 360 several years ago. It's been discontinued, but I still use it from time to time. The published power rating at 4 ohms IIRC was 360watts. I was told it actually pushes closer to 425 watts.

    The M-Pulse 600, BigBlock, and Titan will get plenty loud...as will the new M6-Carbine...
     
  7. Jun 23, 2008 #7
    RickenBoogie

    RickenBoogie

    Jul 22, 2007
    Dallas, TX
    A 600 with 412's would be a monster. I'd like that rig.
     
  8. Jun 23, 2008 #8
    pickles

    pickles Gold Supporting Member

    Mar 23, 2000
    Ventura, CA
    :bassist:

    That is very close to my standard big rig. M-pulse with a GS412. It kills.