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Racial Microagressions

Yes it gets 'ugly' when you delve into any British person's genealogy, because the UK was invaded so many times in history. My father's family is descended from the Danelaw, a section of England, which had a high Danish population and adhered to different laws, thanks to Viking raiders. In this case, "British pride" becomes "Danish pride" if you try and claim you are 'indigenous' to Britain. I saw somebody talk about the "aboriginal population" of the UK the other day... the mind boggles.

Kind of like when someone thinks red hair is a purely Irish trait. It came from Scandenavia, with the invaders. Also, Danelaw was more about the time, although there were definite lines of demarcation. I learned more about this after I looked into my mom's genealogy after my dad passed and found ancestors' birth dates in the early 1500s, with reference to someone in the family who fought with King Edmund Ironsides, against King Canute in the Battle of Sherston, 1016 A.D., and died later that day.

Where is your father's family from? My earliest ancestors to come to America arrived in 1654, from Wiltshire, Lancashire.

There's almost no possibility that someone's lineage is pure, from the standpoint of being ONLY descended from people of one area. It's just not plausible. That's one of the reasons I think it's so ridiculous that anyone would think they're so much better than someone else, except by actions, thought and in what they say. Non-thinking people don't care that they're ignorant of these details and they tend to discount any possibility of this truth. Populations mix by choice, or by force and this has been true for all of mankind's history.
 
I am not taking sides here, but it's like this, I was born in the second half of the 20th century. At birth I did not receive any sort of briefing regarding the exploits of my distant ancestors. In fact, decades later I still don't think about the 1700's or 1800's much at all.
I have never oppressed or enslaved anyone and the very idea is completely alien and repugnant.
So I cannot possibly be held accountable for the occurrences of centuries past.

How often are you held personally accountable for the possible transgressions of your ancestors from generations ago? My guess would be never.
 
I am not taking sides here, but it's like this, I was born in the second half of the 20th century. At birth I did not receive any sort of briefing regarding the exploits of my distant ancestors. In fact, decades later I still don't think about the 1700's or 1800's much at all.
I have never oppressed or enslaved anyone and the very idea is completely alien and repugnant.
So I cannot possibly be held accountable for the occurrences of centuries past.

This is the most eloquent plea to retain ignorance I have read in at least five minutes.

I don't think it was your distant ancestors who made Black Americans feel that they were inferior.

It is still going on today.

The Civil Rights era was the 1960's. That is not our distant past; that is our recent past. You were taught it in school, and don't try to pretend you weren't.

As for the 19th Century, all I can say is, those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it. You have the right not to know things, but by not knowing them, you lose the right to participate in discussions about them.

You will never find me in a discussion about how to sweat solder copper pipes in cold temperatures, because I have very little knowledge about it.
 
It's times like this I wish Bill Burr were a bassist. I find his views of racism and race relations from a "white guy's" perspective equally insightful and hilarious

Kind of like when someone thinks red hair is a purely Irish trait. It came from Scandenavia, with the invaders. Also, Danelaw was more about the time, although there were definite lines of demarcation. I learned more about this after I looked into my mom's genealogy after my dad passed and found ancestors' birth dates in the early 1500s, with reference to someone in the family who fought with King Edmund Ironsides, against King Canute in the Battle of Sherston, 1016 A.D., and died later that day.

Where is your father's family from? My earliest ancestors to come to America arrived in 1654, from Wiltshire, Lancashire.

Man, I am a little envious. The fact that I am black, and that my father was adopted make it very difficult for me to find out much about my own lineage. And I think stuff like that is cool.

Again I say, I'm a little envious. Stop oppressing me! :(
 
This is the most eloquent plea to retain ignorance I have read in at least five minutes.

I don't think it was your distant ancestors who made Black Americans feel that they were inferior.

It is still going on today.

The Civil Rights era was the 1960's. That is not our distant past; that is our recent past. You were taught it in school, and don't try to pretend you weren't.

As for the 19th Century, all I can say is, those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it. You have the right not to know things, but by not knowing them, you lose the right to participate in discussions about them.

You will never find me in a discussion about how to sweat solder copper pipes in cold temperatures, because I have very little knowledge about it.

You may not know much about sweat soldering copper pipes in cold weather. But you do seem to know a lot about making blacks feel inferior. Since you've made such a detailed post.

But I don't see anything about anyone actually making blacks feel inferior.

I just don't see it.

Would you care to offer something that proves that there are people attempting to make blacks feel inferior?
 
How often are you held personally accountable for the possible transgressions of your ancestors from generations ago? My guess would be never.



I'm not "the man". Never have been. Show me " the man" because I have a bone to pick too.
The whole issue is like when a buddy's girlfriend dumps him. He weepy, you feel bad for him, offer help etc.
A month later he's still weepy but now it's time for him to quit whining and get on with his life.
 
I'm not "the man". Never have been. Show me " the man" because I have a bone to pick too.
The whole issue is like when a buddy's girlfriend dumps him. He weepy, you feel bad for him, offer help etc.
A month later he's still weepy but now it's time for him to quit whining and get on with his life.

Nice analogy. Things happen. I doubt if there anyone who has managed to avoid all the rain drops in life.

It's part and parcel.
 
You may not know much about sweat soldering copper pipes in cold weather. But you do seem to know a lot about making blacks feel inferior. Since you've made such a detailed post.

But I don't see anything about anyone actually making blacks feel inferior.

I just don't see it.

Would you care to offer something that proves that there are people attempting to make blacks feel inferior?
BawanaRik, with utmost respect - just go and read a few comments on YouTube videos and you'll find many, many examples of people who are intent on making black people feel inferior. It's everywhere. And worse still, they really believe it in their gut. It's as frightening as it is nauseating.
 
I'm not "the man". Never have been. Show me " the man" because I have a bone to pick too.
The whole issue is like when a buddy's girlfriend dumps him. He weepy, you feel bad for him, offer help etc.
A month later he's still weepy but now it's time for him to quit whining and get on with his life.

That assumes there is equality. There isn't in many sectors.
 
That would make sense. 'Reverse racism' as another phrase that, when I see it, usually drags all the legitimacy out of an argument.

"I couldn't get into university because they gave all the scholarships to minorities. Reverse racism!!!!". :rollno:

I think both phrases basically boil down to people not wanting other people to ever have a bite at the apple. When it comes to equal rights, I often see those at the top whining about when it will be their turn to get more rights. "You've given homosexuals and women more rights, when will you start caring about us straight men again?". Some people are just hard-wired with a whole chunk of privilege blindness. In fact just mentioning the word 'privilege' would get you branded as a member of the "PC brigade" in many quarters (including my Grandparents' house, but that is for another time)....

I just have to say that I really enjoy your posts!
 
You may not know much about sweat soldering copper pipes in cold weather. But you do seem to know a lot about making blacks feel inferior. Since you've made such a detailed post.

But I don't see anything about anyone actually making blacks feel inferior.

I just don't see it.

Would you care to offer something that proves that there are people attempting to make blacks feel inferior?

In college I took a course on African-American literature. I highly recommend you take a similar class for some perspective.
 
There are a good many more African-American writers than just Toni Morrison. Pick up a copy of "Makes me wanna holler" by Nate McCall for starters.

Consider this a good opportunity to educate yourself on this subject.

I find that negative people tend to bother me. I attempt to stay clear of them.

Hollering isn't my idea of pleasant. I would prefer rational calm talk.
 

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